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re: Slavery was not the only issue the South was fighting for

Posted on 8/21/17 at 8:29 pm to
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 8/21/17 at 8:29 pm to
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the bastards LOST because man has been marching inexorably toward progress since the dawn of time......


That's a wonderfully messianic vision you've got.

Question for you.

Do you think you have the power the change human nature?
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
20473 posts
Posted on 8/21/17 at 8:33 pm to
John Winthrop would have agreed with you, for the record. He and his Puritans genuinely believed in building that city in a hill.

The ancient Greeks would have considered the proposition absurd. Humans are what they are, there is no progress.

If anything, the past is more glorious than the future.

As a southerner, and a high church Episcopalian, I side with the Greeks.
Posted by germandawg
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 8/21/17 at 11:49 pm to
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That's a wonderfully messianic vision you've got. Question for you. Do you think you have the power the change human nature?



I don't think anyone does.....and it is in mans nature to progress......
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