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re: Slavery was not the only issue the South was fighting for

Posted on 8/20/17 at 1:01 pm to
Posted by SMU Tiger Fan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 8/20/17 at 1:01 pm to
You, sir, are an idiot.

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The curious thing is that although slavery was the moral issue of the nineteenth century that divided the political leaders of the land, the average American had very little interest in slaves or slavery. Most Southerners were small farmers that could not afford slaves. Most Northerners were small farmers or tradesmen that had never even seen a slave.

Today we recognize slavery as a moral issue. But in the early nineteenth century, it was seen as an economic issue first, moral issue second. A series of legislative actions, most notably the Missouri Compromise of 1820, had been enacted by Congress to put limits on the propagation of slavery, but compromise with northern and southern interests was always kept in mind. The South had an economic interest in the spread of slavery to the new territories so that new slave states could be created and the South's political influence would remain strong. The North had an interest in limiting the spread of slavery into the new territories for both purposes of controlling Southern political power AND support of the moral issue.

Southern politicians convinced their majority that the North was threatening their way of life and their culture. Northern politicians convinced their majority that the South, if allowed to secede, was really striking a serious blow at democratic government. In these arguments, both southern and northern politicians were speaking the truth--but not "the whole truth." They knew that to declare the war to be a fight over slavery would cause a lot of the potential soldiers of both sides to refuse to fight.

So-was the war about slavery? Of course. If there had been no disagreement over the issue of slavery, the South would probably not have discerned a threat to its culture and the southern politicians would have been much less likely to seek "their right to secede." But was it only about slavery? No. It was also about the constitutional argument over whether or not a state had a right to leave the Union, and--of primary concern to most southern soldiers--the continuation of antebellum southern culture. Although the majority of Southerners had little interest in slaves, slavery was a primary interest of Southern politicians--and consequently the underlying cause of the South's desire to seek independence and state rights.


Great American History Lesson


Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73532 posts
Posted on 8/20/17 at 1:06 pm to
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You, sir, are an idiot.


Sweet copy/paste.

Toddy already provided one good example. Did you at least read it? There are more examples if 1861 Mississippi outsmarted you.
Posted by germandawg
Member since Sep 2012
14135 posts
Posted on 8/21/17 at 1:42 am to
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Although the majority of Southerners had little interest in slaves, slavery was a primary interest of Southern politicians--and consequently the underlying cause of the South's desire to seek independence and state rights.




It wasn't about States rights it was about a very small segment of several states and their economic interests. Presumably most black folks in the south would've preferred the abolition of slavery and, given the large number of southern unionists and deserters and those whites in the south who couldn't be forced or coerced into serving in either army the actual number of people who gave a shite about rich people being allowed to own other human beings or states rights was minuscule. It was all about the wealthy and powerful clinging desperately to their wealth and power.....and the bastards LOST because man has been marching inexorably toward progress since the dawn of time......
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