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re: Harris starting doing well, starting at UNC

Posted on 8/12/17 at 10:40 am to
Posted by TigerRagAndrew
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Posted on 8/12/17 at 10:40 am to
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O let Fournette play in the Florida game and lost to the worst FLA team in memory.


Any team going to Atlanta is not the worst team in memory. Fournette shouldn't have played, but Floridas defense was very good and we went conservative. Still should have won

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O left Etling in vs ALA and got shut out for the first time since 2011 BCSNC.


You didn't watch Harris in 2016 apparently
This post was edited on 8/12/17 at 10:41 am
Posted by SEC Grapevine
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Posted on 8/12/17 at 4:11 pm to
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You didn't watch Harris in 2016 apparently


Miles only let Harris attempt 277 passes (118th) all season vs 438 for Flynn/Perrilloux in his only Championship season. Miles got more and more conservative while the FBS top 25 Teams are averaging 4000-5000 yds in 500-600 attempts, like the NFL.

Mett's 3000 yds pales in comparison. Great for an LSU QB is Mediocre. Plus without being mobile his season ending injury spelled trouble in the Not-For-Long-League.

I assume you meant watch Harris in 2015 vs ALA when he accounted for over 80% of LSU's total Offense: 128 Passing, 20 rushing for 4 YPC. While Leonard Heisman was 31 yds on 19 carries or 1.6 YPC with 18 of that in garbage time. Harris Passing Yds was more than the 2016 Total Offense vs ALA.

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Notice FS Cyrus Jones crashing down on Harris. He was hit eight times, hurried on 50% of his dropbacks, and suffered a hernia, shoulder injury, and a knee injury that affected him the rest of the season. The following game he was hit 5 more times and his accuracy dropped dramatically. He faced over twice as many 3rd and 7+ as Etling and converted 34% to Etling's 17%. More Mobile and a better arm.



Of all the QBs to play for LSU only Harris makes this escape and throw - thanks O-Line!!! Facing a third-and-9, Harris showed both his elusiveness and arm strength on one play. Defensive tackle Caleb Brantley flushed Harris from the pocket, and sophomore Jordan Sherit grabbed the quarterback’s jersey as he escaped. But Harris wriggled free of Sherit’s grasp and chucked the ball downfield to — guess who? — Dupre.

Founette's 2015 Heisman Campaign was selfish stat-padding puffery by Miles/Cam/LF that went up in smoke when he played ALA, ARK, OM. It prevented the team from developing a Passing Game and keeping WRs like Tyron Johnson, Trey Quinn, Diarse or playing DJ Chark who lit it up in Spring and Fall practice. It also limited Guice and was very poor utilization of Fournette.

After the first 6 games, LSU had attempted only 16 Passes per game, dead last in the FBS.

LF went in for every redzone TD to puff those numbers up.

Unfortunately LSU was leading the SEC in Penalties all year which was so severe it costs LF and Harris in stats.

Malachi Dupre raised the low passing attempts point pretty effectively.

“If they were recruiting me and they told me they were going to give the ball to Leonard, or the running backs 75 percent of the time, it might be hard to get a recruit at the receiver position or quarterback position. But at the end of the day, we’re here … we’ve got to live with it.”

Now, for the sake of accuracy I have to point out that the Tigers aren’t handing the ball to Fournete 75% of the time. They are running it 75% of the time though, and passing only 25% of the time.

With 61 pass attempts through 4 games the Tigers rank 125th of 128 FBS teams for total attempts. Many teams ahead of them have played 5 games. If you take LSU’s 15 attempts per game average and figure they would be at 76 attempts through 5 they would move all the way up to 124th place.

Only two college football teams are passing the ball less than LSU right now.



The nation’s leading rusher didn’t get further than one yard on 13 of his 19 carries Saturday. After the game was out-of-reach he got one 18 yd carry, otherwise he would have had less than 1 YPC!!

Miles' Heisman campaign and the slow, predictable I formation contributed to the loss at WISC and the 3 losses to ALA,ARK,OM. It hurt the Passing Game, the DTQBs, drove away recruits, and 5 WRs. Plus LF was playing w/a pre-season high ankle sprain and was not 100%, had 11 carries for 35 yds lst Half, 0 TDs in the game, and aggravated that injury. He is not the agile, tackle breaking 2015 ESPN Sports Science "Adrian Peterson Phenom" LINK who makes cuts in 0.2 seconds, faster than the blink of an eye, with 3Gs of force on his ankles, running 21 mph. He was heavier, slower, and after 5 games had 2 TDs vs 11, 350 yds vs the 1,022 he had after 5 games last year when he was the fastest player to reach 1,000 yds: more than the total for 70 FBS teams. The SCAR game last yr and the Missouri games were carbon copies, 624 vs 634 yds offense, 45 vs 42 pts. "Fournette takes advantage of shotgun" reaffirmed that RBs run far better out of the multi-option shotgun than the predictable I formation which robs DTQBs of Tempo, RPOs, and accuracy. Guice also had 161 yds in the SCAR game, so rotating 2 backs kept them fresh. LF turns 22 in Jan. RBs have the shortest NFL career, 2.5 yrs avg. He will be 26, past his prime, if he reaches free agency.



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This post was edited on 8/12/17 at 10:28 pm
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