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re: Almost Mid-Season MLB Awards
Posted on 6/27/17 at 1:32 pm to BenDover
Posted on 6/27/17 at 1:32 pm to BenDover
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Let me ask you this. What's more impactful-- Hitting .344 with 18 bombs and an OPS of 1.029 and being below average defensively. Or batting .298 with 12 HR and an OPS of .908 while being the 9th best fielder at your position?
I could do the same thing you just did: would you rather have a top 15 percentile defensive player in the league with a .403 OBP or a bottom 5 percentile defensive player with a .384 OBP. Never of us lied, but both slanted the argument one way and left off other valuable pieces of information.
This post was edited on 6/27/17 at 1:35 pm
Posted on 6/27/17 at 1:57 pm to The Seaward
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would you rather have a top 15 percentile defensive player in the league with a .403 OBP or a bottom 5 percentile defensive player with a .384 OBP.
at using OBP. But to entertain your point, there's a 19 point gap between the two in OBP. There's a 121 point gap in OPS. What's more valuable, walks or walks + extra base hits? Especially considering Seager doesn't steal bags to turn those walks into being in scoring position.
Posted on 6/27/17 at 2:02 pm to The Seaward
Its hard to make good MVP arguments for anyone else, particularly if you are going to make it stat based rather than impact based-- there's only one other marginal candidate that really even registers on the radar right now.
The best impact based argument for anyone else, would be Sano for AL MVP. Yes, Judge has made the Yankees better-- but let's face it, they finished 5 games out of the playoff chase last year. The Twins were *30* games out of the playoff chase last year.
If they play .500 ball the rest of the way, the Twins will end up posting a 24 win improvement over last year, mostly on the strength of Sano's bat in the middle of that order.
It isn't like Sano is blessed with a ton of help, pitching, or protection, either. Really, once you get past Santana, no other Twin has been killing it this first half-- his oRAR (includes defense, hitting, even baserunning) rating, if you like advanced stats, is worth more than the next two Twins combined.
The best impact based argument for anyone else, would be Sano for AL MVP. Yes, Judge has made the Yankees better-- but let's face it, they finished 5 games out of the playoff chase last year. The Twins were *30* games out of the playoff chase last year.
If they play .500 ball the rest of the way, the Twins will end up posting a 24 win improvement over last year, mostly on the strength of Sano's bat in the middle of that order.
It isn't like Sano is blessed with a ton of help, pitching, or protection, either. Really, once you get past Santana, no other Twin has been killing it this first half-- his oRAR (includes defense, hitting, even baserunning) rating, if you like advanced stats, is worth more than the next two Twins combined.
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