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re: Trump admin want more aid for the Saudi wahabi war machine in Yemen

Posted on 4/20/17 at 6:41 am to
Posted by ILeaveAtHalftime
Member since Sep 2013
2889 posts
Posted on 4/20/17 at 6:41 am to
Yea nothing to do with some mess in an embassy a few years ago. But I'm sure Iran is just waiting at the table for us, welcoming our embrace with open arms. You know, since we have a long and documented history of being allies with them.

Our undying love for Israel is the only thing holding back the great American -Persian Alliance!

/sarcasm
Posted by WhiskeyPapa
Member since Aug 2016
9277 posts
Posted on 4/20/17 at 10:01 am to
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But I'm sure Iran is just waiting at the table for us, welcoming our embrace with open arms. You know, since we have a long and documented history of being allies with them.

Our undying love for Israel is the only thing holding back the great American -Persian Alliance!


That is correct. The Reagan Administration tried a rapprochement with Iran. Why did our policy change?

MCFARLANE TOOK CAKE AND BIBLE TO TEHERAN, EX-C.I.A. MAN SAYS
By BERNARD GWERTZMAN, Special to the New York Times
Published: January 11, 1987

WASHINGTON, Jan. 10— A retired Central Intelligence Agency official has confirmed to the Senate Intelligence Committee that on the secret mission to Teheran last May, Robert C. McFarlane and his party carried a Bible with a handwritten verse from President Reagan for Iranian leaders.

According to a person who has read the committee's draft report, the retired C.I.A. official, George W. Cave, an Iran expert who was part of the mission, said the group had 10 falsified passports, believed to be Irish, and a key-shaped cake to symbolize the anticipated ''opening'' to Iran.

These and other details of the secret American operation are discussed at length in the report, but much of the material has already appeared in public in the more than two months since the revelations began with publication of a story about the McFarlane mission in a small Beirut weekly. In effect, the report supplies a useful chronology of the events.

The rather bizarre details of the McFarlane mission were first made known by the Iranian Speaker of Parliament, Hojatolislam Hashemi Rafsanjani, on Nov. 4, when the secret operation first became known. Hojatolislam Rafsanjani also said that the Americans had been disguised and that they had carried sets of Colt pistols as gifts. But these details were not confirmed in the report."

LINK

How should it work over there? What is our best policy? Using history as our guide always, we can look at the Brits going back to the Golden Age under Elizabeth.

Brit policy was to support a weaker continental country against the strongest continental country. Spain ascendant? Support the Dutch. France Ascendant? Support the Spanish. Russia a problem? Ally with France and support Turkey. Germany ascendant? Support France. Germans at your throat again? Support France again. Unceremoniously ejected from the continent? Enlist the United States.

That policy works. It worked for the Brits for 300 years. We are doing exactly the opposite in our policy currently. The ally we need in that region is IRAN. We pretty much shanghaied them into being our ally in the 1950's. After their revolution we should have enlisted them as such again. The Reagan Administration took them a cake. The Iranians have a large population they have a long and proud history and they are NOT Arab. They hate the Arabs. THEY could act as a foil to Saudi Arabia. which is our greatest enemy in the region by far, and perhaps the world.

Supporting the second strongest power in a region against the strongest is a proven policy.

We don't pursue that policy because the Jewish State doesn't like it.

Taking out obvious foes of Saudi Arabia - Iraq and Iran -- that hurts our interests, but supports Israel, and they could sure as Hell GAF about United States interests.
This post was edited on 4/20/17 at 10:05 am
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