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re: How can you cognitively dissociate the our less glamous deeds from our ideals?
Posted on 8/31/16 at 11:30 am to Goyas
Posted on 8/31/16 at 11:30 am to Goyas
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Maybe not to the pure extent of their original manifestation, but perhaps in a way doesn't allow us to move on fully from our past.
In a civil society, there must be a social contract between the state and the citizen. Past wrongs that are perpetuated by the state should evolve over time; it's the citizen's responsibility, however, to trust the state's judgment and exercise prudent, discretionary action in response. I see no visible reason for the particular act of civil disobedience by Kaepernick as a prudent response to any judgment by the existing state.
Posted on 8/31/16 at 11:44 am to PoundFoolish
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n a civil society, there must be a social contract between the state and the citizen. Past wrongs that are perpetuated by the state should evolve over time; it's the citizen's responsibility, however, to trust the state's judgment and exercise prudent, discretionary action in response. I see no visible reason for the particular act of civil disobedience by Kaepernick as a prudent response to any judgment by the existing state.
Idealistically, yes. I agree with you.
Let's talk reality though.
That's not happening, and I don't see how anyone with an education can cognitively say so. Disproportionate State violence against black people is as American as the declaration of independence; actually it predates it. That's a fact. If it hurts, sorry but there's nothing you can say to reverse that. But you can willfully ignore that. Which is what many seem to do. Or they just don't care because it's not them.
Why should black Americans trust the state? I'm asking for an honest reason of why they should? Looking st situations like Flint or the lead poisoning in Indiana, or health care disparities, Etc, why should this group has any faith in a govt not built for them, and built originally to exclude them? It was never crafted with them in mind, except as to be a cash cow for their economic system
We have amendments and clauses still in law that were meant to subjugate them. We have prosecutors to this day that still seek juries that were punitively punish and convict black defendants because of racial prejudices.
Explain to me in your opinion why black Americans can and should blindly trust in a system that has, more so than not, not had their best interest in mind? Whether it was repealing slavery then ushering in Jim Crow right after that, or the beginning of the industrial prison complex in the 1870s to round up those freed men, or laws used to punitively restrict their economic advancements. Or the Democratic Party taking black votes for 50 years and giving them nothing but ruined cities and more plight, when has someone actually had their plights in mind, and not their representation to some sort of fiscal or political gain?
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