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re: Handgun Recommendation $500-$600

Posted on 7/18/16 at 6:33 am to
Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
30620 posts
Posted on 7/18/16 at 6:33 am to
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One stop shot record is pointless because in a shooting you are going to put multiple rounds on target and relying on one shot stopping power is like relying on hole in ones to win a golf tournamemt.



Completely false.

357 using federal 125 jhp= 641 shootings with 615 one shot stops which equals to 96% one shot stops. That is a lot of hole in ones

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One shot stops very seldom occur with a pistol.



Also false. See above. 615 one shot stops out of 641 for the 357 mag. For the 45 ACP shooting 220 grain it has a very good one shot stop record too. 166 out of 173 for a 96% one shot stop.

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When you look at wounds comparing a .357, .40, and 9 mm you don't see hardly any difference. It's not to you get to .44 mag and .45 you see a notable difference.


The third false statement.

Best round for one stop. There is a wound difference and real data supports this.

357 mag= 615 out of 641 for a 96% one shot stop ability
40 s&w= 137 out of 146 for a 94% one shot stop ability
9mm= 202 out of 243 for a 83% one shot stop ability

Of the above three everyone will say the 9mm is the easiest to shoot and they should be able to put the bullet where it needs to go but shooting paper targets is different than people.

Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
90935 posts
Posted on 7/18/16 at 7:19 am to
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For the 45 ACP shooting 220 grain


I kige your data, baw, but you mean 230 grain here (ETA: And very likely the round is the Federal Hydrashock JHP in 230 grain, but there is less variation among JHPs at that bullet weight).

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There is a wound difference and real data supports this.


The round is still new, but the Federal HST 9mm (Essentially the child or grandchild of the Hydrashok) have to be doing better than 83% - I would think they're in the 90% range at this point.

But, the 125-grain Federal 357B (primarily out of 4-inch barrel Smiths and Colts, BTW) remains the Gold Standard for real world shootings. And, the data sample is so large because that's what the majority of state troopers and major law enforcement agency beat cops carried from the mid/late 50s through the early 80s.
This post was edited on 7/18/16 at 7:24 am
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