re: I have the disquieting feeling that the GoT TV series is starting to drift

Posted in the episode thread as well but can someone remind me, does Theon know that he didn't kill the boys? Or is he naive to them being alive as well?

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The problem isn’t that this episode included a rape, but that it did so in the service of bad storytelling. It told the audience nothing that wasn’t already known, and it didn’t advance any plot lines beyond where they already were.


I've said this from the beginning when Littlefinger said they were taking here "home". That if they allowed Ramsay to do the Jeyne stuff to Sansa, that it wouldn't move the plot along. We know he sucks. They could redeem Theon a different way. I didn't like it one bit.

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I vehemently disagree with this. I hated to see it, but it broke Ramsay's grasp over Theon and it has finally hardened Sansa into being able to deal with the harsh realities of the world in the 7 Kingdoms. It may be the most important plot point this season as far as the North is concerned. You can bet Theon and Sansa will work together to bring down the Boltons and give Ramsay his just desserts. They hinted at that in the preview for next week's episode.

So many people hated that scene. I agree, it was rough and made me ill, but I see absolutely no reason to doubt that it did more than reaffirm Ramsay's evilness. I think that's pretty short sighted. If, in fact, that turns out to be the case, then Benioff and Weiss need to bring in help from some other writers to workshop their ideas, because there is no excuse for including that scene unless it is a major plot point.