re: Jon Gruden perplexed about Marcus Mariota not being the consensus #1 prospect

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I hope Mariota does well, but most of the talking heads other than Gruden are saying Mariota's receivers were always ten yards open and/or a large portion of his passes were screens behind the line of scrimmage

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And anyone that watched Oregon games could see this. That's why I'm wondering what Gruden was talking about when he says he's seen Mariota throw into tight windows, because he didn't have to do that in games. I'm not saying Mariota can't do it, but we haven't seen it.

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I don't get the hate for Mariota. I think he's just as good if not better as well

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It's not hate. It's that QBs with his background have not fared well in the NFL. Doesn't mean he can't succeed but I'd have a tough time making the pick, unless I was Chip Kelly.

The fact that he's a good guy is the main reason he's shot up the boards IMO. He's the anti-Winston and teams desperately want an alternative because Winston's background scares them. In that process I think Mariota's become overrated.

To truly gauge their abilities I say what would happen if we swtiched their off-the-field stuff around. Does Mariota even sniff the first round if he got in the kind of trouble Winston got in? Winston has his off-the-field stuff and he's going #1. That should tell you right there who's the better QB.