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re: Top 5 "over-covered" (read: wrong) Vatican stories of the year
Posted on 12/28/14 at 7:39 pm to catholictigerfan
Posted on 12/28/14 at 7:39 pm to catholictigerfan
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So apparently Birth Control, Pre marital sex, gay marriage etc. is up to discussion. So so so so wrong. Those are matters of doctrine not discipline the Pope has no Authority to change even that.
I'm not well-versed in Vatican administrative procedure, but who/what would have the authority the change the doctrine concerning those things?
Some sort of meeting of Cardinals or a special council?
Posted on 12/28/14 at 7:56 pm to boosiebadazz
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I'm not well-versed in Vatican administrative procedure, but who/what would have the authority the change the doctrine concerning those things?
Some sort of meeting of Cardinals or a special council?
No-one has the authority. Well outside of Christ himself.
Posted on 12/28/14 at 8:49 pm to boosiebadazz
It may have been wrong to say that they are all doctrines.
It is this simple
Dogma unchangeable because Christ himself said it
Doctrine can develop so meaning we can come to a deeper understanding but a doctrine defined by the Church can't be changed only developed. Only the Pope and councils can define these. In Doctrine there are different levels, some are infallible others are not infallible. Birth Control isn't infallible doctrine but the Pope isn't going to change it. Pre Marital sex is a violation of the tenth commandment so that isn't going to change. Same with Gay Marriage. I would say these are dogmas not doctrine.
Discipline changeable and much lower standards.
Dogma is something like Divinity of Christ, etc.
Doctrine are things like Catholic Social Doctrine, certain things of morality, and many other things
Discipline, like married priesthood, lectionary, etc.
It can be hard to know what fits into what category, I don't know everyone.
It is this simple
Dogma unchangeable because Christ himself said it
Doctrine can develop so meaning we can come to a deeper understanding but a doctrine defined by the Church can't be changed only developed. Only the Pope and councils can define these. In Doctrine there are different levels, some are infallible others are not infallible. Birth Control isn't infallible doctrine but the Pope isn't going to change it. Pre Marital sex is a violation of the tenth commandment so that isn't going to change. Same with Gay Marriage. I would say these are dogmas not doctrine.
Discipline changeable and much lower standards.
Dogma is something like Divinity of Christ, etc.
Doctrine are things like Catholic Social Doctrine, certain things of morality, and many other things
Discipline, like married priesthood, lectionary, etc.
It can be hard to know what fits into what category, I don't know everyone.
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