re: Guys who don't touch their chest on the bench press

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Out of curiosity, why all the hate for bench press?

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IMO there are just other ways to achieve those results without putting that kind of strain on the shoulder joints.

Also, I'll use DB's any day before bench press, as it actually teaches your muscles and joints to work independently. People have a tendency to overload the bench trying to look all bad arse, but their form will suffer tremendously due to too much weight and/or muscle imbalances. DB's are much better at keeping good form and helping correct muscle imbalances.