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re: A Featured RB

Posted on 10/29/14 at 1:51 pm to
Posted by The Pain Train
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 1:51 pm to
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Fox Mulder

i just watched ingram's highlights on the saints site, there's no argument

there's a run where he shakes and sheds a defender off the left guard, then cuts all the way to the right, does the same thing to another defender and then gets 10 more yards

watch it again, bad defense, but GB's secondary have been there surest tacklers and only strength on defense and ingram earned every yard



Wasn't GB down a starter or two in their secondary? I believe Shields was out and maybe at least one other DB as well, or one unexpectedly decided to play coming off an injury.

I never denied that Ingram looked great. Brees and others looked great as well but I'm holding off on saying that those types of numbers are the new norms for them due to the circumstances of that particular game. If the offense produces like that every week, then I won't give a flip about arguing anything.

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He's used a RBBC approach due to the different skill sets offered and a lack of a true feature back outside of Deuce for 1 season.

And it has not worked well for him IMO. Look how injured we are every single year at RB despite using RBBC. It may have cost us the 2010 championship. It works when you have a Reggie, Sproles, and a PT type back that offer receiving threats out of the backfield, not when you have the same exact style.


Ingram has not shown (yet anyway) that he is clearly the best RB each and every week. He started off the ATL game with 11 yards on his first four carries before Khiry came in on the third possession and helped produce a TD drive. Ingram surely didn't look like the best RB in Detroit.

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Teams don't get that homefield advantage by saving their running backs for the playoffs.

Look at Lynch last year. Look at Lacy carrying the Packers to the playoffs.

I'd prefer to use the approach of letting him run, run, and run. If he needs to take a game off due to wear and tear, then let Robinson carry the load for that game.


Those are both bad examples. The run game has been Seattle's identity. Wilson, as great of a young QB as he has turned out to be, is a dual threat who isn't going to put up many 300+ yard passing games. In fact, he has had 3 games this year so far in which he didn't even top 200 yards. Green Bay had to lean heavily on Lacy because Rodgers got injured.

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goatmilker

Carolina is 28th vs the rush total yards.
1st in yards allowed per carry.


I told ya.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 10/29/14 at 1:59 pm to
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Ingram has not shown (yet anyway) that he is clearly the best RB each and every week


He's averaging 5.7 YPC this year, which leads the NFL.

He's averaging 5.7 YPC over the last 16 games. This isn't a fluke anymore. He produces with carries.

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He started off the ATL game with 11 yards on his first four carries


Statistically irrelevant sample size.

Murray's first 4 carries in each game


SF - 20 and a fumble Finished with 118 (5.4 ypc)
Tenn - 14 and a fumble Finished with 167 (5.8 ypc)
Rams - 18 Finished with 100 (4.2 ypc)
Saints - 10 Finished with 149 (6.2 ypc)
Texans - 11 Finished with 136 (4.4 ypc)
Seahawks - 11 Finished with 115 (4.0 ypc)
Giants - 27 Finished with 128 (4.6 ypc)
Redskins - 17 Finished with 141 (7.4 ypc)




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Ingram surely didn't look like the best RB in Detroit.



Yes, I'd agree that a RB coming back from injury might need an adjustment period.

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Green Bay had to lean heavily on Lacy because Rodgers got injured.


He averaged 19.4 carries per game when Aaron Rodgers played last year and 17.8 for the season...
This post was edited on 10/29/14 at 2:32 pm
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