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re: Rolling Stones or Beatles?

Posted on 10/15/14 at 8:58 am to
Posted by kidbourbon
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Posted on 10/15/14 at 8:58 am to
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Actually it's not only true, it's inarguable

Before the Beatles, successful band singers couldn't wait to get out of their contracts and go solo ("And if your boss wants to try any rough stuff, I ain't no bandleader!"). You still see this in early R&R, when Holly split with the Crickets and Dion left the Belmonts.

Something similar was happening in jazz with acts like The Modern Jazz Quartet, but The Beatles brought it into pop music.

Alabama is credited with bringing it into country.


You don't know what inarguable means.
Posted by Kafka
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Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 10/15/14 at 9:26 am to
From Beatles vs Stones:

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from the outset, they acted and behaved just as they saw themselves—as a tightly knit group. Previously, in both England and America, most successful pop and rock acts emphasized individuals: either those who performed solo, like Elvis Presley, or who fronted a well-known backing band, like, Buddy Holly and the Crickets or Bill Haley and the Comets. British pop, especially, seemed beholden to a formula where a lead singer with a flashy stage name, such as Billy Fury or Marty Wilde, performed in front of a generic backup group.

When the band we now know as the Beatles was first getting going, they easily could have put Lennon up front, and in fact they very briefly styled themselves as Johnny and the Moondogs. But they never seriously pursued that approach. Lennon later remarked that the day he first laid eyes on Paul—who at age fifteen already owned his guitar, on which he could perform a stellar rendition of Eddie Cochran’s “Twenty Flight Rock”—he realized he’d stumbled into a dilemma. “I had a group [the Quarry Men],” Lennon said. “I was the singer and the leader; then I met Paul, and I had to make a decision: Was it better to have a guy who was better than the guy I had in? To let the group be stronger, or to let me be stronger?”

Lennon chose what was best for the group
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when the Beatles launched their recording career at EMI, producer George Martin came perilously close to insisting that they follow the custom and designate one of themselves the front man: either John or Paul. As he mulled over which of the two should become the leader, however, he also considered how well the Beatles got along together and how much he enjoyed their collective charisma. They “had that quality that makes you feel good when you are with them and diminished when they leave,” he once said. Finally, he decided he wasn’t prepared to force the issue if it might upset the group’s lovely alchemy.
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