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re: The Sharing Economy (Disco Biscuits content)
Posted on 9/26/14 at 9:53 pm to Blue Velvet
Posted on 9/26/14 at 9:53 pm to Blue Velvet
VI. Song Trivia (part 1)
Is there a song called Bert?
The song has been called by both names, but according to the band, the "official" name of the song is Little Lai.
Is there a song called Splattums?
When the song Svenghali was first debuted, the band did not name the song, so a bunch of the fans took it upon themselves to call it "Splattums", which stuck for a while (some people still insist on calling it that). There is also a song called Crickets, which has the word Splattums in the lyrics. There is currently no song that is officially called "Splattums", however.
What happened to My Lady Survives?
My Lady Survives, an early composition by Barber, disappeared from the rotation after 10/31/1998. It became the ending section to another Barber song, Haleakala Crater, debuted on 08/11/1999.
What is an inverted version of a song?
Consider that a basic Disco Biscuits song (Song A) has three parts: A beginning composed section, followed by a jam, followed by a composed ending section.
An inverted version of a song will almost always happen when they jam out of a different song (Song B), and segue the jam into the ending section of Song A. At the exact point of the ending of Song A, they immediately play the beginning of Song A, then the jam section, which usually segues into a different song (Song C), or the song that proceeded the inverted song (Song B).
Example:
Non-Inverted Version of a song:
Song A (Beg.) -> Jam ->Song A (End)
Inverted Version:
Song B -> Jam -> Song A (End) -> Song A (Beg.) -> Jam -> Song C
References:
8/31/03: Magellan -> Inverted Once the Fiddler Paid -> Magellan
(Available on Transfusion Radio Broadcast #4)
5/28/06: Story of the World -> Inverted Digital Buddha -> Story of the World
(Available from LiveDownloads or for free at the Live Music Archive)
The band starts a song one night, and finishes it the next?
Sometimes. Once the songs were be broken up into pieces like inverted and dyslexic versions, there was nothing to stop the band from playing the beginning of a song one night and the ending a different night (or vice versa, of course, for a dyslexic completion).
What is the Hot Air Balloon?
The Hot Air Balloon is a rock opera, written by Jon Gutwillig, that was debuted on 12/31/98 at the Silk City Diner in Philadelphia, PA.
For the full story see here
What is a "dub" version of a song?
A "dub" or "reggae" version of a song is a slowed down version, often complemented by a "juicier" bassline and calypso sounds a la reggae. It's simply altering the tune/tempo to give the composed section of the song a different feel. Most common are Floodlights>Dublights (4/28/01, for example) and Mindless Dribble>Dub Dribble (5/8/01, 5/28/03, etc.)
What is a song fakeout?
A song fakeout is when the band builds up the end of a jam exactly like they would for a given song, then instead of playing the actual song, they stop and start playing a different song all at once. For example, on 10/02/1999, there is an Basis For a Day fakeout, with a fast techno jam in the same key as Basis like it was usually played in '99, then the band dropped into Above the Waves at the last second.
What are the differences between the Big Happy, Highwire, and I Remember When?
Originally conceived as a 40-minute version of the tune, Mindless Dribble, They Missed the Perfume was written piece by piece on a computer. As the band wrote the various parts of the Dribble jam, they worked out a theme that would be called The Big Happy, first debuted inside Mindless Dribble on 10/6/2000. In working out the album, they began to divide Mindless Dribble into songs. From these jams, Spacebirdmatingcall, Highwire, and I Remember When were formed. Highwire is simply the Big Happy with a bridge and lyrics. I Remember When, the closing piece of They Missed the Perfume, is meant to be a synopsis of the album, incorporating snippets of Dribble, the Big Happy/Highwire, and Spacebird. When I Remember When was debuted at Bonnaroo in 2002, it was given a set of closing lyrics.
As the songs have been played, they've begun to take firmer shape. The Big Happy has clearly become a much more concise (about 30 seconds) theme. And in order to synchronize the band for a segue into the more complex I Remember When, the Disco Biscuits have used the Big Happy as a launch platform. Because I Remember When starts off with Jon playing the Big Happy theme, there is often confusion about the distinction between the two songs. However, the bassline and drumwork at the start of I Remember When is clearly different, and I urge you to seek out a standalone version of I Remember When if you're having trouble hearing the difference.
What were the "Movie Jams" on the Fall 2001 Tour?
In the spirit of Halloween, the special mini-run in the oft-neglected Pacific Northwest, and the much-ballyhooed Akira Jam, the band played a series of improvised scores. Though the full Alice in Wonderland jam was marred by DVD playback issues (and as such, no sync is possible), each score offers its own unique session of lengthy improv. Run Lola Run featured the first segment of the film. Clips of Koyaanisqatsi were played throughout a unique opening jam that started out of DJ Mauricio's set. And the Linus and Lucy/"Great Pumpkin Jam" featured a sped-up version of the Peanuts classic.
10/31/01 Woodmen of the World Hall, Eugene, OR:
Walt Disney's Alice in Wonderland
11/01/01 The Wett Bar, Vancouver, BC:
It's The Great Pumpkin, Charlie Brown
11/02/01 Crystal Ballroom, Portland, OR:
Koyaanisqatsi
11/03/01 King Cat Theatre, Seattle, WA:
Run Lola Run
Is there a song called Bert?
The song has been called by both names, but according to the band, the "official" name of the song is Little Lai.
Is there a song called Splattums?
When the song Svenghali was first debuted, the band did not name the song, so a bunch of the fans took it upon themselves to call it "Splattums", which stuck for a while (some people still insist on calling it that). There is also a song called Crickets, which has the word Splattums in the lyrics. There is currently no song that is officially called "Splattums", however.
What happened to My Lady Survives?
My Lady Survives, an early composition by Barber, disappeared from the rotation after 10/31/1998. It became the ending section to another Barber song, Haleakala Crater, debuted on 08/11/1999.
What is an inverted version of a song?
Consider that a basic Disco Biscuits song (Song A) has three parts: A beginning composed section, followed by a jam, followed by a composed ending section.
An inverted version of a song will almost always happen when they jam out of a different song (Song B), and segue the jam into the ending section of Song A. At the exact point of the ending of Song A, they immediately play the beginning of Song A, then the jam section, which usually segues into a different song (Song C), or the song that proceeded the inverted song (Song B).
Example:
Non-Inverted Version of a song:
Song A (Beg.) -> Jam ->Song A (End)
Inverted Version:
Song B -> Jam -> Song A (End) -> Song A (Beg.) -> Jam -> Song C
References:
8/31/03: Magellan -> Inverted Once the Fiddler Paid -> Magellan
(Available on Transfusion Radio Broadcast #4)
5/28/06: Story of the World -> Inverted Digital Buddha -> Story of the World
(Available from LiveDownloads or for free at the Live Music Archive)
The band starts a song one night, and finishes it the next?
Sometimes. Once the songs were be broken up into pieces like inverted and dyslexic versions, there was nothing to stop the band from playing the beginning of a song one night and the ending a different night (or vice versa, of course, for a dyslexic completion).
What is the Hot Air Balloon?
The Hot Air Balloon is a rock opera, written by Jon Gutwillig, that was debuted on 12/31/98 at the Silk City Diner in Philadelphia, PA.
For the full story see here
What is a "dub" version of a song?
A "dub" or "reggae" version of a song is a slowed down version, often complemented by a "juicier" bassline and calypso sounds a la reggae. It's simply altering the tune/tempo to give the composed section of the song a different feel. Most common are Floodlights>Dublights (4/28/01, for example) and Mindless Dribble>Dub Dribble (5/8/01, 5/28/03, etc.)
What is a song fakeout?
A song fakeout is when the band builds up the end of a jam exactly like they would for a given song, then instead of playing the actual song, they stop and start playing a different song all at once. For example, on 10/02/1999, there is an Basis For a Day fakeout, with a fast techno jam in the same key as Basis like it was usually played in '99, then the band dropped into Above the Waves at the last second.
What are the differences between the Big Happy, Highwire, and I Remember When?
Originally conceived as a 40-minute version of the tune, Mindless Dribble, They Missed the Perfume was written piece by piece on a computer. As the band wrote the various parts of the Dribble jam, they worked out a theme that would be called The Big Happy, first debuted inside Mindless Dribble on 10/6/2000. In working out the album, they began to divide Mindless Dribble into songs. From these jams, Spacebirdmatingcall, Highwire, and I Remember When were formed. Highwire is simply the Big Happy with a bridge and lyrics. I Remember When, the closing piece of They Missed the Perfume, is meant to be a synopsis of the album, incorporating snippets of Dribble, the Big Happy/Highwire, and Spacebird. When I Remember When was debuted at Bonnaroo in 2002, it was given a set of closing lyrics.
As the songs have been played, they've begun to take firmer shape. The Big Happy has clearly become a much more concise (about 30 seconds) theme. And in order to synchronize the band for a segue into the more complex I Remember When, the Disco Biscuits have used the Big Happy as a launch platform. Because I Remember When starts off with Jon playing the Big Happy theme, there is often confusion about the distinction between the two songs. However, the bassline and drumwork at the start of I Remember When is clearly different, and I urge you to seek out a standalone version of I Remember When if you're having trouble hearing the difference.
What were the "Movie Jams" on the Fall 2001 Tour?
In the spirit of Halloween, the special mini-run in the oft-neglected Pacific Northwest, and the much-ballyhooed Akira Jam, the band played a series of improvised scores. Though the full Alice in Wonderland jam was marred by DVD playback issues (and as such, no sync is possible), each score offers its own unique session of lengthy improv. Run Lola Run featured the first segment of the film. Clips of Koyaanisqatsi were played throughout a unique opening jam that started out of DJ Mauricio's set. And the Linus and Lucy/"Great Pumpkin Jam" featured a sped-up version of the Peanuts classic.
10/31/01 Woodmen of the World Hall, Eugene, OR:
Walt Disney's Alice in Wonderland
11/01/01 The Wett Bar, Vancouver, BC:
It's The Great Pumpkin, Charlie Brown
11/02/01 Crystal Ballroom, Portland, OR:
Koyaanisqatsi
11/03/01 King Cat Theatre, Seattle, WA:
Run Lola Run
This post was edited on 10/4/14 at 4:52 pm
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Posted on 9/26/14 at 9:53 pm to Blue Velvet
VII. Song Trivia (part 2)
Is there a song called Pilin' It Higher?
No, not really. The name comes from the song Pilin' It High. Originally played as a fairly straightforward rock tune, the song got an overhaul by the Perfume, a name the Biscuits have played under for special events. On 5/28/2003, they played alternate versions of their songs (including a dub Dribble, techno I-Man, and honkytonk Sound One). This break beat version of the song was loved so strongly by the fans, that with the exception of a special birthday request and a rendition by the Perfume, the rock version of Pilin' It High has been replaced by the reworked break beat version. However, to distinguish the two, many have taken to calling the old version Pilin' It High and the new one Pilin' It Higher.
Is there a song called WaWa?
No. Just like Pilin' It Higher, WaWa was an alternate name given to a song played by the Perfume on 5/28/2003. The electronic version of 7-11 was certainly a discothumping dancefest, but as of yet it has not been played again. For those of you not from the east coast, WaWa is a similar type of store to 7-11.
What is a "techno" version of a song?
Like the "dub" version, it is simply an alternate way to play a song. The most common techno versions are I-Man and Pilin' It High, and they've been played so frequently now that often people forget there used to be another style. A "techno" version of a song involved dropping a song's usual drumwork for a four-on-the-floor house beat complemented by heavy hi-hat work. Additionally, the bassline is often more thumping, following very crisply the more emphatic techno beat. While electronic music purists may cringe at the misuse of the term "techno" to describe what is essentially a "house" version of a song, they'll just have to deal with the nomenclature.
Techno I-Man has varied over the years as their style of playing has progressed. Some of the more well-known versions of the song are 3/14/99, 12/4/99, 10/27/00, 12/29/02, and 5/28/03. For a comparison to a non-techno version, 5/6/99 is a perfect example (and you can hear the roots of King of the World taboot). Most of the versions from 2003 and 2004 are techno versions and are often not noted as such on the setlists because it had become so commonplace.
What is a dyslexic version of a song?
Referring back to the Inverted example above, except the beginning of Song A does not immediately follow the ending.
Basically, a song is considered dyslexic if it is broken up, similar to an inverted version, but the song structure is played out of order or not immediately following each other. The band might play the end of a song in the first set, then start off the second set with the beginning. This would be considered a dyslexic version of the song.
Example:
Dyslexic Version:
Song A -> Jam -> Song B (End), Song C, Song B (Beg.) -> Song D
References:
1/4/07: Above the Waves -> Dyslexic Svenghali (End) -> Paul Revere -> Dyslexic Svenghali (Beg.) -> Confrontation
Is there such thing as an "Inverted Dyslexic" version of a song?
NO.
Even though the whole Inverted/Dyslexic nomenclature can be confusing at times, there is technically no such thing as an "Inverted Dyslexic" version a song. A song can either be Inverted or Dyslexic, but not both.
What seems to confuse people the most is when a song is played Inverted, but broken up. People figure that because the inversion is broken up, it could be considered both Inverted AND dyslexic, but this is not true.
Take, for example, the 12/29/06 Reactor -> Save the Robots -> Confrontation -> Save the Robots -> Reactor palindrome from the TLA. The Robots is inverted, although it might not seem like it is at first. Looking at the setlist, you might be quick to say that the Robots is dyslexic because they play the beginning, then another song, then the rest of Robots. This is true and ALMOST sounds like a dyslexic version, but to understand this completely you have to see just HOW the robots was inverted. After the jam out of the first Reactor, they segue into the ending of Robots. After the ending, they immediately go into the beginning section. That right there is the inversion. After that they start up the second jam section and instead of completing the song like a normal inversion, they go into a straight up Confrontation. Once the Confrontation is finished they segue back into the Robots, right where they left off. You could call this a "Broken up Inversion", but definitely not "Inverted Dyslexic".
What is a Palindrome?
A palindrome, as defined by Mariam-Webster dictionary is:
A word, verse, or sentence (as in "Able was I ere I saw Elba") or a number (as in 1881) that reads the same backward or forward
In terms of Disco Biscuits setlists, this term refers to a string of songs that, when read on paper, is the same forwards as it is backwards. Take for example the very first Palindrome, played during the first set on 5/1/99 at the Wetlands in New York City:
1: Mulberry's Dream , The Overture > Basis For A Day > Vassillios > Basis For A Day > The Overture
As you can see, the entire first set, with the exception of the Mulberry's opener, if written backwards would still look the same. Palindromes are similar to sandwiches, except that a palindrome must contain AT LEAST three different songs, while a sandwich only uses two. In the case of the 09/08/01 palindrome, four different songs are used.
What is the Chemical Warfare Brigade?
The Chemical Warfare Brigade is a rock opera written by Marc Brownstein during his break from the band in early 2000. It was originally debuted by Marc's band Electron on 8/19/2000 Trocadero Theater in Philadelphia.
For the full story see here.
Is there a song called Pilin' It Higher?
No, not really. The name comes from the song Pilin' It High. Originally played as a fairly straightforward rock tune, the song got an overhaul by the Perfume, a name the Biscuits have played under for special events. On 5/28/2003, they played alternate versions of their songs (including a dub Dribble, techno I-Man, and honkytonk Sound One). This break beat version of the song was loved so strongly by the fans, that with the exception of a special birthday request and a rendition by the Perfume, the rock version of Pilin' It High has been replaced by the reworked break beat version. However, to distinguish the two, many have taken to calling the old version Pilin' It High and the new one Pilin' It Higher.
Is there a song called WaWa?
No. Just like Pilin' It Higher, WaWa was an alternate name given to a song played by the Perfume on 5/28/2003. The electronic version of 7-11 was certainly a discothumping dancefest, but as of yet it has not been played again. For those of you not from the east coast, WaWa is a similar type of store to 7-11.
What is a "techno" version of a song?
Like the "dub" version, it is simply an alternate way to play a song. The most common techno versions are I-Man and Pilin' It High, and they've been played so frequently now that often people forget there used to be another style. A "techno" version of a song involved dropping a song's usual drumwork for a four-on-the-floor house beat complemented by heavy hi-hat work. Additionally, the bassline is often more thumping, following very crisply the more emphatic techno beat. While electronic music purists may cringe at the misuse of the term "techno" to describe what is essentially a "house" version of a song, they'll just have to deal with the nomenclature.
Techno I-Man has varied over the years as their style of playing has progressed. Some of the more well-known versions of the song are 3/14/99, 12/4/99, 10/27/00, 12/29/02, and 5/28/03. For a comparison to a non-techno version, 5/6/99 is a perfect example (and you can hear the roots of King of the World taboot). Most of the versions from 2003 and 2004 are techno versions and are often not noted as such on the setlists because it had become so commonplace.
What is a dyslexic version of a song?
Referring back to the Inverted example above, except the beginning of Song A does not immediately follow the ending.
Basically, a song is considered dyslexic if it is broken up, similar to an inverted version, but the song structure is played out of order or not immediately following each other. The band might play the end of a song in the first set, then start off the second set with the beginning. This would be considered a dyslexic version of the song.
Example:
Dyslexic Version:
Song A -> Jam -> Song B (End), Song C, Song B (Beg.) -> Song D
References:
1/4/07: Above the Waves -> Dyslexic Svenghali (End) -> Paul Revere -> Dyslexic Svenghali (Beg.) -> Confrontation
Is there such thing as an "Inverted Dyslexic" version of a song?
NO.
Even though the whole Inverted/Dyslexic nomenclature can be confusing at times, there is technically no such thing as an "Inverted Dyslexic" version a song. A song can either be Inverted or Dyslexic, but not both.
What seems to confuse people the most is when a song is played Inverted, but broken up. People figure that because the inversion is broken up, it could be considered both Inverted AND dyslexic, but this is not true.
Take, for example, the 12/29/06 Reactor -> Save the Robots -> Confrontation -> Save the Robots -> Reactor palindrome from the TLA. The Robots is inverted, although it might not seem like it is at first. Looking at the setlist, you might be quick to say that the Robots is dyslexic because they play the beginning, then another song, then the rest of Robots. This is true and ALMOST sounds like a dyslexic version, but to understand this completely you have to see just HOW the robots was inverted. After the jam out of the first Reactor, they segue into the ending of Robots. After the ending, they immediately go into the beginning section. That right there is the inversion. After that they start up the second jam section and instead of completing the song like a normal inversion, they go into a straight up Confrontation. Once the Confrontation is finished they segue back into the Robots, right where they left off. You could call this a "Broken up Inversion", but definitely not "Inverted Dyslexic".
What is a Palindrome?
A palindrome, as defined by Mariam-Webster dictionary is:
A word, verse, or sentence (as in "Able was I ere I saw Elba") or a number (as in 1881) that reads the same backward or forward
In terms of Disco Biscuits setlists, this term refers to a string of songs that, when read on paper, is the same forwards as it is backwards. Take for example the very first Palindrome, played during the first set on 5/1/99 at the Wetlands in New York City:
1: Mulberry's Dream , The Overture > Basis For A Day > Vassillios > Basis For A Day > The Overture
As you can see, the entire first set, with the exception of the Mulberry's opener, if written backwards would still look the same. Palindromes are similar to sandwiches, except that a palindrome must contain AT LEAST three different songs, while a sandwich only uses two. In the case of the 09/08/01 palindrome, four different songs are used.
What is the Chemical Warfare Brigade?
The Chemical Warfare Brigade is a rock opera written by Marc Brownstein during his break from the band in early 2000. It was originally debuted by Marc's band Electron on 8/19/2000 Trocadero Theater in Philadelphia.
For the full story see here.
This post was edited on 10/4/14 at 4:52 pm
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