re: If Archie ever had an offensive line to speak of,

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And careful fox of worshipping at the all pure alter of stats.

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I don't; however, there should be SOMETHING there when you compare him with his colleagues at the position that would indicate greatness...but there isn't because he wasn't.

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Also most who saw him play thought he was a better player than those around him

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and there it is...he was the best player on a shitty fricking team. He was the smartest kid on the short bus, so why do we always have this discussion?

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There are players who were not as good as their stats would have you believe

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there are players who were not as good as your eyes would have you believe.

Now I do think what you see on the field is important...sure, but I don't believe greatness can be stifled. The cream always rises to the top. Great players elevate the play of their team regardless of the sport. So archie's line may have sucked complete balls, but if he was truly great, they wouldn't have looked as bad as they were.

shite, brees made bushrod look 20x better than he was for the entire 2009 season. I think bushrod turned out to be a solid LT, but his first year starting guys were beating him...just not quick enough.