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re: Would the Allies have won WWII without America getting involved?

Posted on 7/25/14 at 11:30 pm to
Posted by Huey Lewis
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Posted on 7/25/14 at 11:30 pm to
Oh wow...

Russia's part in WWII was extremely downplayed by U.S. propaganda during the Cold War. 80% of Germany's military deaths were on the Eastern Front.

80%

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the Soviets, who routinely faced battles involving several hundred thousand soldiers on both sides, did not regard the 67,000 Germans defending Normandy on June 6th as serious opposition.iii To the Soviets, fighting 390,000 Germans in the area of a single city (Stalingrad) was meeting serious opposition



Fact is...U.S. invasion into Europe did comparatively little to cause a German defeat. More like it stopped Russia's westward advancement.
This post was edited on 7/25/14 at 11:42 pm
Posted by MontyFranklyn
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Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 7/25/14 at 11:36 pm to
Russia had Hitler back peddling before America even got involved. Russia would have locked all of Europe down if they wanted to. Japan only attacked America as a distraction to get to an oil supply because we had cut off their previous one.
Posted by asurob1
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Posted on 7/25/14 at 11:40 pm to
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Fact is...U.S. invasion into Europe did comparatively little to cause a German defeat. More like it stopped Russia's westward advancement.


fact.


The Germans failed to knock out the Soviets quickly and it was all over after that...it just took a few years to go down.
Posted by LaFlyer
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 7/25/14 at 11:44 pm to
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Fact is...U.S. invasion into Europe did comparatively little to cause a German defeat. More like it stopped Russia's westward advancement.


True, but the air war of attrition which destroyed the Luftwaffe would of never happened as well. Also the manpower involved in the fortifications was formidable. To me when Zhukov blooded the Japanese so badly in the east that 18 divisions of armor and infantry were able to be moved into the fight against Germany the gig was up.
Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 7/26/14 at 12:22 am to
I think the Allies would have slowly won Europe.


Russia defeated Japan's largest land army with ease at the end of world war 2. I think Russia would have driven Japan back and signed some sort of piece treaty with them.

Japan would have eventually been driven back by the Asian countries many many years later.
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