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re: Frank Wilson for head coach, keep other coaches when miles retires?

Posted on 6/27/14 at 10:30 am to
Posted by lsu2006
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Posted on 6/27/14 at 10:30 am to
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No, I'm saying that he isn't a proven recruiter

He's been here one year. I know he isn't the only one recruiting and a lot of in state guys will choose LSU regardless, but guys like Chi, Harris and Quinn have all stated that Cameron was a big factor and are excited to learn under him.
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It is literally mind-boggling how people are totally throwing logic out the window here.

I'm not throwing logic out. I'm just not going to make a 5 year stretch (upwards of 20 years ago) as head coach at the shittiest program in the Big Ten some kind of indictment on his abilities as a head coach.
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And Cam has never done it, despite lucking into one of the most electric players in B1G history.

We're not going to give Cam credit for molding him and tailoring an offense to make him as electric as he was? He just rolled the ball out there and told him to go at it?
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Last time I checked, HC is in charge of more than just the offense. Other offensive coaches have managed to have success with terrible programs (Duke, Baylor, etc.)

Right, but at LSU we can hire a top-flight DC (like we have now) and let Cam do his thing on offense, recruiting and administrating. Let's give him more time here before we can say he has no recruiting ability.

My main point in all this is that, if we're talking 5 or so years down the road, Cam would be a more logical choice as a head coach than Frank. Wilson has TONS of potential further down the line, though.

Who even knows if those two will be here or even available when Les leaves?
Posted by Moustache
GEAUX TIGERS
Member since May 2008
21581 posts
Posted on 6/27/14 at 11:11 am to
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I'm not throwing logic out. I'm just not going to make a 5 year stretch (upwards of 20 years ago) as head coach at the shittiest program in the Big Ten some kind of indictment on his abilities as a head coach.


I get that. But at the same time, Duke was the shittiest program in the ACC and Iowa State or Baylor were the shittiest programs in the big 12, and their coaches have made them competitive at least. Cameron couldn't even compete. I know it was years back and Indiana is a bad program, but to not have a winning season has to at least factor into the decision.

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We're not going to give Cam credit for molding him and tailoring an offense to make him as electric as he was? He just rolled the ball out there and told him to go at it?


Oh, I absolutely give him credit. He lucked into landing the talent, as Randle-el was small and had too low a score on the SAT to play his 1st year. Credit to CC goes in that he trusted in him at QB and built and offense around him. I'm just saying it speak volumes to how bad Cam was at defense and administration to have an electric player like that and still not even hit .500 as a record.

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Let's give him more time here before we can say he has no recruiting ability.


Oh, I'm not saying he doesn't have recruiting ability. Just that it's not proven quite yet due to his short tenure in modern college football so far.

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Who even knows if those two will be here or even available when Les leaves?



This is probably true. Going outside is the more likely and better option IMO. For now, let's enjoy the stability Les has given us though.

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