re: Did anyone actually at LSU when Saban was coach have run ins with him?

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If you equate "excellence" only with wins then you're sadly mistaken. Please don't misunderstand me. I like winning just as much as anyone else. But if the sole standard of "excellence" is wins then you don't know what you're talking about.

Miles exudes excellence in his demeanor, he brings it out in his players, he shows it in his human interactions with others and he creates leaders because of his caring attitude. A true leader brings up other leaders. He doesn't scream, yell, and browbeat them into submission. If you've done any reading, you'll understand that players WANT to play for Miles because of his excellence. Players would COME BACK to play for Miles for the same reason. Make no mistake, he knows football better than probably anyone on the rant. But he has and brings out excellence in himself and others.

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I'm sorry, but excellence in the world of CFB and CFB coaching is only determined by wins. It's the harsh but honest truth. He is not a professor or sales team manager where the things you mentioned, matter, he is a football coach. And when discussing CFB, excellence=wins. I'm not a Miles basher, look at my post history. I think he is an OK coach who is in an excellent situation making him an above average coach, but I like him. I don't think he will go anywhere nor do I want him too. I'm just saying, your validity for excellence is far off for a profession that is only revolves around 1 thing.