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re: Jags would be 17.5 pt favorites over Alabama
Posted on 10/3/13 at 8:12 am to Walking the Earth
Posted on 10/3/13 at 8:12 am to Walking the Earth
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The thread has been silly from the start but it really went to the Twilight Zone when the old NFL vs college all stars was brought up. Back when the all stars had a chance (and even occasionally won), the NFL players had off season jobs! Now all they do is train with the best equipment, learn from the best coaches and use the best performing enhancing drugs year round.
That game was played up until 1976. The Super Bowl Champion Steelers won by only 7 in 1975 with Terry Bradshaw at QB. If people think it would be that lopsided, then they probably need to rethink how good some of the legends like Bradshaw, Swann, Harris, Green, Ham, etc are.
Link to Bradshaw having a terrible game against college kids
NFL players have gotten better but so have college players. If the gap in 1975 wasn't that big between the Super Bowl champs and an all star team, then why do people think an all-American team that could have underclassmen as well wouldn't be able to compete with the worst NFL teams now?
Posted on 10/3/13 at 9:22 am to arwicklu
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If the gap in 1975 wasn't that big between the Super Bowl champs and an all star team, then why do people think an all-American team that could have underclassmen as well wouldn't be able to compete with the worst NFL teams now?
Posted on 10/3/13 at 9:50 am to arwicklu
Your 50 year old example is bad because of a few things. It completely falls to mention the growth in talent pool and talent evaluation since that time.
A good (albeit extreme) modern analogy is women's college basketball and the WNBA. Every year in college and in the pros, a freshman or rookie comes in and does very well. This is because the talent available for that sport is very narrow and not very deep. This allows skilled players to play against less skilled players that are just filling out rosters who aren't even in the same stratosphere as some of their peers.
This has been exacerbated in the well developed football machine, which now taps talent in every portion of the country. If the NFL is still missing players today, how many do you think they missed in 1976?
This well oiled machine goes down all the way to the high school level. I can guarantee my high school in south Mississippi didn't have the type of weight training equipment it does now. You may think, this helps the college team argument, as a rising tide raises all ships, but it just isn't how it works. Instead, that rising tide raises potentially one ship who had the talent to make it in the first place.
A good (albeit extreme) modern analogy is women's college basketball and the WNBA. Every year in college and in the pros, a freshman or rookie comes in and does very well. This is because the talent available for that sport is very narrow and not very deep. This allows skilled players to play against less skilled players that are just filling out rosters who aren't even in the same stratosphere as some of their peers.
This has been exacerbated in the well developed football machine, which now taps talent in every portion of the country. If the NFL is still missing players today, how many do you think they missed in 1976?
This well oiled machine goes down all the way to the high school level. I can guarantee my high school in south Mississippi didn't have the type of weight training equipment it does now. You may think, this helps the college team argument, as a rising tide raises all ships, but it just isn't how it works. Instead, that rising tide raises potentially one ship who had the talent to make it in the first place.
This post was edited on 10/3/13 at 9:56 am
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