re: Any other Star Trek:TOS fans hate the Abrams stuff?

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What the heck has he been in that you could have reached Shia levels of hatred?

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Star Trek

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I really think he's the biggest reason I hate this movie, rather than merely dislike it. Although I have outlined all sorts of other points in this thread (and elsewhere), he really isn't likeable as Kirk, so it's hard for me when he's the protagonist. Like his director, I have not liked anything I have seen him in, so, for future reference, he's on my "Do Not Watch" list.

That's not the end of the world. Pitt and Dicaprio used to be on that list. I was open-minded enough to give them another chance. Pitt is still terrible as a lead (Benjamin Buttons notwithstanding), or at least as a lead where he is asked to carry the movie, but he makes a fine supporting character, especially a stoned/crazy/imaginary one. Dicaprio has grown. I still don't think he was good young, but, at least from Aviator on, he has delivered in the films I have seen, anyway.

I really don't see that potential from Pine or LaBeouf though.