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re: For the old-timers...when did Cholly Mac first get on the hot seat?

Posted on 1/29/13 at 1:04 pm to
Posted by Beltway Bengal
Potomac, Maryland
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 1/29/13 at 1:04 pm to
I agree with much of what has been said here. He was criticized from day one. His success his first year was widely attributed to having inherited a loaded team from Pepsodent Paul. He was also doomed to compare unfavorably in the judgment of many fans with his stylish and eloquent predecessor.

Even as he won many games in the sixties, he was criticized for being too focused on defense, too predicable on offense and too loyal to certain assistants. Plus, he had real trouble beating Ole Miss during Johnny Vaught's tenure and Alabama.

After several years of losing quarterbacks to injury (or in the case of Butch Duhe, death), he felt compelled to have a two quarterback system in place. That led to Bert Jones splitting time, even when he was thought by most fans to be the most exciting QB in a generation.

So, when the run of 9 win seasons ended with the extreme disappointment of the '74 season that I59 described quite well, the critics turned quite vocal very quickly.

Lest you think I'm advancing the Miles = Mac comparison that some have drawn, I would point out that Miles already has more SEC titles than Mac ever won, that Mac never won a MNC, that Miles has been very competitive against our top opposition, and has a much better overall record. That being said, if the tough times come, I fully expect the further criticism to mount as it did back then.

Posted by toratiger
susukino
Member since Aug 2008
2638 posts
Posted on 1/29/13 at 1:10 pm to
In 17 seasons Coach Mac one 1 SEC championship.
Posted by BRAVEHEART
Member since Aug 2012
1525 posts
Posted on 1/30/13 at 12:41 am to
quote:

he was criticized for being too focused on defense, too predicable on offense and too loyal to certain assistants.
Hmmmm, this sounds quite familiar, even though it's not 1974.

All these years and the song remains the same. Unlimited potential going to waste.

Remember what ex-Georgia Coach Vince Dooley once said. "If they can ever get the right guy in place at LSU, we might just all be playing for second place." Well Vince, the right guy aint here any longer, but what the hey, we compete for Championships and that's good enough for some.


Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 1/30/13 at 12:51 pm to
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when the run of 9 win seasons ended


Mac, like with many good coaches, couldn't keep up with the expectations he generated with all those 9 win seasons in a row.

The man went from a 5 yr record of 45-12 straight to a 6 yr record of 40-27.

There were other issues for sure, but that was the main one. imo

The back to back non-winning seasons of 74 and 75 put Mac squarely on the hot seat.



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