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re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERS
Posted on 7/13/13 at 8:21 pm to ffishstik
Posted on 7/13/13 at 8:21 pm to ffishstik
On my reread of AFFC and ADWD focusing on one storyline at a time, on the North storyline (Sam/Jon/Bran), just read the following that takes on a whole different meaning now:
"Even after stumbling into his narrow bed, rest had not come easily. He knew what he would face today, and found himself tossing restlessly as he brooded on Maester Aemon's final words. 'Allow me to give my lord one last piece of counsel', the old man said, 'the same counsel that I once gave my brother when we parted for the last time. He was three-and-thirty when the Great Council chose him to mount the Iron Throne. A man grown with sons of his own, yet in some ways still a boy. Egg had an innocence to him, a sweetness that we all loved. Kill the boy within you, I told him the day I took ship for the Wall. 'It takes a man to rule. An Aegon, not an Egg. Kill the boy and let the man be born.' The old man felt Jon's face. 'You are half the age that Egg was, and your own burden is a crueler one, I fear. You will have little joy of your command, but I think that you have the strength in you to do the things that must be done. Kill the boy, Jon Snow. Winter is almost upon us. Kill the boy and let the man be born'."
Just prior to this, Sam was bringing Jon two books as requested by Maester Aemon. One was "Dragonkin, Being a History of House Targaryen from Exile to Apotheosis, with a Consideration of the Life and Death of Dragons".
These two things actually are presented separately, one in Sam's POV in AFFC and the other from Jon's POV of the exact same encounter in ADWD. When read together, two things jump out. One, before he departs to catch a ship to LEAVE the Wall, he gives Jon the exact same advice that he gives Aegon before he departs to board a ship TO the Wall and leaves him with a book on the Targaryen family tree. I have promised to not refer to Jon as Aegon anymore, so I'll just leave that to y'all.
Also, the "kill the boy and let the man be reborn" line will happen quite literally. Jon the man is alive and well and will be ready to wreck some shite in TWOW.
"Even after stumbling into his narrow bed, rest had not come easily. He knew what he would face today, and found himself tossing restlessly as he brooded on Maester Aemon's final words. 'Allow me to give my lord one last piece of counsel', the old man said, 'the same counsel that I once gave my brother when we parted for the last time. He was three-and-thirty when the Great Council chose him to mount the Iron Throne. A man grown with sons of his own, yet in some ways still a boy. Egg had an innocence to him, a sweetness that we all loved. Kill the boy within you, I told him the day I took ship for the Wall. 'It takes a man to rule. An Aegon, not an Egg. Kill the boy and let the man be born.' The old man felt Jon's face. 'You are half the age that Egg was, and your own burden is a crueler one, I fear. You will have little joy of your command, but I think that you have the strength in you to do the things that must be done. Kill the boy, Jon Snow. Winter is almost upon us. Kill the boy and let the man be born'."
Just prior to this, Sam was bringing Jon two books as requested by Maester Aemon. One was "Dragonkin, Being a History of House Targaryen from Exile to Apotheosis, with a Consideration of the Life and Death of Dragons".
These two things actually are presented separately, one in Sam's POV in AFFC and the other from Jon's POV of the exact same encounter in ADWD. When read together, two things jump out. One, before he departs to catch a ship to LEAVE the Wall, he gives Jon the exact same advice that he gives Aegon before he departs to board a ship TO the Wall and leaves him with a book on the Targaryen family tree. I have promised to not refer to Jon as Aegon anymore, so I'll just leave that to y'all.
Also, the "kill the boy and let the man be reborn" line will happen quite literally. Jon the man is alive and well and will be ready to wreck some shite in TWOW.
This post was edited on 7/13/13 at 8:25 pm
Posted on 7/13/13 at 9:24 pm to ffishstik
very nice.
I am currently reading an excellent essay called "The great northern conspiracy" and will post it here, but the whole "kill the boy and let the man be born" plays a huge part.
I am currently reading an excellent essay called "The great northern conspiracy" and will post it here, but the whole "kill the boy and let the man be born" plays a huge part.
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