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Posted on 4/23/11 at 10:36 pm
Posted by LSU Piston
The 313
Member since Feb 2008
3844 posts
Posted on 4/23/11 at 10:36 pm
Am I crazy...or do they have a pretty decent, young nucleus for the future?

Granger
Collison
Dunleavy
Hibbert
Hansbrough
George
McRoberts

Wonder if they could take a small step next year and be a 4 or 5 seed...
Posted by UVAandLSU
Member since Mar 2011
117 posts
Posted on 4/23/11 at 10:43 pm to
Dunleavy is 31 and on the decline. Other than that, they have some great young players. The problem is they will not be able to attract a marquee free agent to put them over the top and they will not be drafting high enough to pick up another superstar (unless they get another Granger at 17 type steal). They are destined to be perennial 6-8 seeds, but hey at least they will be fun to watch. I hope they make a few national TV games next time the NBA comes around, whenever that may be.
Posted by LSU Piston
The 313
Member since Feb 2008
3844 posts
Posted on 4/23/11 at 10:44 pm to
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Dunleavy is 31


Interesting...didn't know he was that old...
Posted by AMM AU9893
Auburn, AL
Member since Feb 2011
13789 posts
Posted on 4/23/11 at 10:45 pm to
The problem is they don't have a star
Posted by UVAandLSU
Member since Mar 2011
117 posts
Posted on 4/23/11 at 10:48 pm to
Ya he was 3rd pick in the 2002 draft after Jay Williams/Yao Ming. He peaked in at around 27 and now he's slowly becoming less effective.
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
55614 posts
Posted on 4/23/11 at 11:00 pm to
Collison, Hibbert and Granger were all kind of disappointing this year, but if/when they improve, the Pacers will be a perennial playoff team. Once they got rid of O'Brien, they played above-.500 ball.
This post was edited on 4/23/11 at 11:01 pm
Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
87455 posts
Posted on 4/23/11 at 11:02 pm to
I think they have some money to spend too.
Posted by MrWiseGuy
Member since Dec 2009
27772 posts
Posted on 4/23/11 at 11:10 pm to
Meh. Granger is a good player. Paul George has talent, think of like a Rudy Gay type player is his max ceiling. DC is a decent above average PG, don't think he'll ever be more than that. Hibbert is like a 14 and 6 guy, so nothing to get all excited about there.

Right now they have basically a bunch of C+ and B- parts with one solid B guy in Granger.

Honestly, they need to trade DC and Paul George and go get a legit PG. And then go get a big man down low who can actually rebound the basketball.
This post was edited on 4/23/11 at 11:12 pm
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216133 posts
Posted on 4/23/11 at 11:12 pm to
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The problem is they don't have a star





having a STAR is overated. Just look at the Nuggets.
Posted by AMM AU9893
Auburn, AL
Member since Feb 2011
13789 posts
Posted on 4/23/11 at 11:17 pm to
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Just look at the Nuggets

I doubt they get out of the first round. Your point?
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216133 posts
Posted on 4/23/11 at 11:19 pm to
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I doubt they get out of the first round. Your point?



They are a better team WITHOUT MELO.
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
55614 posts
Posted on 4/23/11 at 11:22 pm to
The team with two stars is definitely going to win this series.
Posted by AMM AU9893
Auburn, AL
Member since Feb 2011
13789 posts
Posted on 4/23/11 at 11:24 pm to
quote:

They are a better team WITHOUT MELO.


But will never get close to a championship without a star
Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
Member since Nov 2007
99999 posts
Posted on 4/23/11 at 11:27 pm to
quote:

having a STAR is overated. Just look at the Nuggets

2010 Lakers - Kobe Bryant, Pau Gasol
2009 Lakers - Kobe Bryant, Pau Gasol
2008 Celtics - Paul Pierce, Kevin Garnett
2007 Spurs - Tim Duncan
2006 Heat - Dwyane Wade, Shaquille O'Neal
2005 Spurs - Tim Duncan
2004 - Only year in recent memory a team won without a true star
2003 - Tim Duncan
2002 - Shaquille O'Neal, Kobe Bryant
2001 - Shaquille O'Neal, Kobe Bryant
2000 - Shaquille O'Neal, Kobe Bryant
1999 - Tim Duncan
1998 - Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen
1997 - Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen
1996 - Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen
1995 - Hakeem Olajuwon
1994 - Hakeem Olajuwon
1993 - Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen
1992 - Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen
1991 - Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen
1990 - Isiah Thomas
1989 - Isiah Thomas

You can go on and on and on. It's a star league. It's extremely important to have one. The teams who win have stars, or usually 3 or 4 really good players. I'm also leaving off names like Dennis Rodman, David Robinson, Manu Ginobli, Tony Parker, Ray Allen, etc.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216133 posts
Posted on 4/23/11 at 11:27 pm to
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But will never get close to a championship without a star


How close did they get WITH MELO??????


I am not disagreeing with the FACT that a STAR would help but it isn't always a STAR thing.
Posted by AMM AU9893
Auburn, AL
Member since Feb 2011
13789 posts
Posted on 4/23/11 at 11:32 pm to
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How close did they get WITH MELO??????


Western Conference Finals
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216133 posts
Posted on 4/23/11 at 11:34 pm to
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Western Conference Finals



Look at the Hornets. They have a SUPERSTAR and are not even close to sniffing a championship. It works both ways.
Posted by GoldenBoy
Winning!
Member since Nov 2004
42079 posts
Posted on 4/23/11 at 11:39 pm to
quote:

Look at the Hornets. They have a SUPERSTAR and are not even close to sniffing a championship. It works both ways.


Wow, your stupidity never ceases to amaze me.
Posted by UFownstSECsince1950
Member since Dec 2009
32811 posts
Posted on 4/23/11 at 11:39 pm to
so what you're saying is, having a superstar hurts one's chances of winning a title. gotcha
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216133 posts
Posted on 4/23/11 at 11:42 pm to
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so what you're saying is, having a superstar hurts one's chances of winning a title. gotcha



Look at the Cavs when BRON was there. basically a one man team. didn't win shite.
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