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re: Nadal is no doubt the best ever.
Posted on 9/14/10 at 11:58 am to FootballNostradamus
Posted on 9/14/10 at 11:58 am to FootballNostradamus
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Barring injury is there a chance in hell he doesn't? Does anyone come close to beating him at the French of the Wimbledon? Winning those two the next two years already puts him at 13 and that's assuming he never wins anything after those or anything on hard courts.
Question: when did Fed. lose his stranglehold? Answer: When Nadal came along. Point being, who knows where the next shot in the dark comes from. You're assuming that Nadal has all these many GS left in him based upon a static field. It ain't static and new players will rise up, maybe the way he did with Fed. As for Wimbledon, until Fed dies or goes partially blind, I'll put him as odds on favorite every time (I obviously do that with Rafa at the French, too).
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Glad you think that someone with one of the top 5 years in the history of tennis is the best player on earth.
Doesn't require much response - I was simply clarifying that the argument for Nadal is not lost on me.
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Like someone mentioned, I still disagree. Today's media is so quick to proclaim people the GOAT. Currently there's no clear-cut winner. Laver, Federer, Sampras and Borg can all make claims.
What are you talking about? The all time holder of GS titles (including ones contested by Rafa) is not, almost by definition, the GOAT? Ok....
For me, the bottom line is that I don't know that I've ever seen a single player dominate all the rest of the field the way Fed has done. Whether that's due to a thin field or something else, I'm not sure. When Fed was in the process of racking up all those Wimbledons and US's it got to be almost a paperwork issue. I don't see that with Rafa anywhere but in France. Rafa doesn't generate the "gimme" GS title feel the same way that Fed did, IMO.
Posted on 9/14/10 at 12:39 pm to PokerLawyer
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Question: when did Fed. lose his stranglehold? Answer: When Nadal came along. Point being, who knows where the next shot in the dark comes from.
Nadal wasn't a shot in the dark. He was arguably the best teenage tennis player ever and a prodigy that everyone knew about. There's no one like that right now.
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As for Wimbledon, until Fed dies or goes partially blind, I'll put him as odds on favorite every time
One of the most obnoxious homer statements I've read in a while.
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What are you talking about? The all time holder of GS titles (including ones contested by Rafa) is not, almost by definition, the GOAT? Ok....
No bc Laver would have more if he'd been allowed to play during his prime, Borg would have more had he played longer, and Sampras has almost as many and against better competitino. Not saying you can't make an argument for Fed but you can make just as good of one for either of them.
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For me, the bottom line is that I don't know that I've ever seen a single player dominate all the rest of the field the way Fed has done. Whether that's due to a thin field or something else, I'm not sure.
It was
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Rafa doesn't generate the "gimme" GS title feel the same way that Fed did, IMO.
Right because he didn't just have one of the dominant US Open tournaments on his worse surface.
Posted on 9/14/10 at 1:12 pm to PokerLawyer
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For me, the bottom line is that I don't know that I've ever seen a single player dominate all the rest of the field the way Fed has done.
Sorry, but that's factually incorrect. Nadal has always dominated HIM.
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