re: Once again another SABAN-MILES discussion (STATS)

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I will admit that Saban had more talent/better recruiting while he was here. This only supports my argument

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So Booty is greater than Russell?
Toefield is greater than Addai?
Reed/Myers/Robinson is greater than Bowe/Doucet/Davis?

Damien James/Fred Booker/Ryan Clark/Hookfin is greater than Zenon/Landry/Chevis/Steltz/Daniels?

Ummmm and none of players that I named were recruited by Saban but by Dinardo. So Saban came into a program with less talent and improved it for Les Miles and you can not understand that?

I am sorry if you can not understand then there is no hope for you.

So you are claiming Miles is a shitty recruiter and thus a shitty coach? Especially since Gundy is a better coach than Miles.

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So you are claiming Miles is a shitty recruiter and thus a shitty coach? Especially since Gundy is a better coach than Miles.

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Nope, said nothing of the Sort. How did you come to this conclusion?

I said that Saban was a better recruiter/had more Talent then Miles - can you refute that????

I also merely stated that Gundy has done better job at OK state than Miles did - can you refute that?

Show me where I said Mike gundy was a better coach or where I said Miles was a shitty one???

Hence we come full circle to my original post which states that Miles has a more successful tenure at LSU than Saban did.

It's all quite simple really.

Well apparently to him Les is a better coach even though when he came into the program there was more talent.
Saban came into a team that had less talent and won right away.

Apparently this person does not understand that.

so you're saying it's impossible to compare the two coaches?

what stat would you use if not win/loss or bowl record or record against OOC opponents or record against BCS teams, or National championships or recruiting?

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Funny that Saban will have delivered more SEC championships despite having to REBUILD a program, whereas Les took over one of the most talented teams in the country.

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Funny you assume that Miles won't win another SEC championship or NC.

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Funny you assume that Miles won't win another SEC championship or NC.

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Funny that you can't count to five. Les isn't winning an SEC title this year, and after this year, he will have been at LSU longer than Saban with LESS SEC championships.

Let's ponder something for a minute. Saban came into a program that was lost in the shuffle. He established the "fence" around Louisiana and kept the top players in the state IN the state. His 2001 class was epic, and once that talent matured, they won a national championship. Nick Saban's other two great classes were the #2 2003 class and #1 2004 class. Nick did not get the opportunity to coach this ridiculous amount of talent, Les did. Les inherited a program that was relevant again AND a national championship contender, while Saban inherited a team that went 4-7 and 3-9 the previous two years.

Like I said, you have to realize the difference in talent and team recognition that each coach had. Les Miles walked into a fricking goldmine that Nick Saban found. As much as it pains me to say (because I HATE Alabama), they are going to beat LSU this year. They will win 10 games, and all this ridiculous talk will finally be put to rest.

You guys do realize that looking in the past isnt going to change anything that happens in the future for our team? LM is our coach, and Saban is the one who left him the wealth of talent. Saban is the dumbarse for leaving, and he's not coming back so why even worry about him except the once a year when we play against him? You cant blame LM for Saban's mistake. And FWIW, LM might not be the best recruiter, but he's not doing to shabby...

Nick Saban also inherited Bradie James, Trev Faulk, Josh Reed, Ryan Clark, Robert Royal, LaBrandon Toefield, Domanick Davis, Rohan Davey, hell I think Chad Lavalais was originally a Dinardo recruit.