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Thoughts from rewatching the Udub game

Posted on 9/8/09 at 8:01 pm
Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
Member since Nov 2005
30979 posts
Posted on 9/8/09 at 8:01 pm
Chad Jones started off Sloppy
I'm watching the game again and CJ missed 2 tackles on the first drive (one that gave up the touchdown) among a few other missed tackles. Also, he should have been called for pass interference early in the 2nd quarter.

The D Line played better than most think
Several times they had Locker in the backfield and he used his speed to escape or he threw the ball away quickly. Yet, they were pushed around on some plays. It seemed that the number of times both occured was about equal. We played 3 down linemen a few times and it didn't work to our advantage at all. Washington took advantage when we dropped a DE into coverage almost every time.

Udub stacked the box in the first half
and we didn't adjust as quickly as we needed. Miles and Co. just kept trying to run Scott up the middle. Sark and Holt probably realized Miles and Crowton didn't want to pass with Jefferson too much (especially with all SEC back Charles Scott), and that is the reason they stacked the box. I really wish we would have adjusted to it instead of playing right into it. Even when they didn't stack the box the LB's would cheat up. When we finally started running options on the last drive, Washington couldn't stop it. When Jefferson threw to the outside they couldn't stop it. I imagine Dickson could've torn up 8-10 yard hooks all game. Hell, crossing patterns and quick slants probably would've torn up the Washington d the entire game.

We played an almost penalty free game
only 3-35 as opposed to Washington's 11-83. Going into the 4th quarter we only had 1 penalty for 5 yards. Then we got a phantom pass interference for 15 yards a few minutes into the 4th. Even Alem's roughing the passer with 50 seconds left in the game is questionable. He literally hit him as soon as the ball left his hand.

Riley, Sheppard, and Cutera all had good games
Which is great to see. Coleman also played very well and made a few key plays.

Patrick Peterson is without a doubt the Defensive MVP

Jefferson is very poised
I don't need to tell any of you anything else about how welcome this is. He seems to be very mature for his age. He stood tall in the pocket when he had to, he threw the ball away when he had to, he knew where the first down marker was and made sure he got there. I just wish he would slide more often. He was 5 of 7 the last 23 or so minutes of the game.

We overused the no huddle offense.
Especially on third downs. I know it's something that needs to be practiced and can throw the D off if used effectively. But with Jefferson being such a young QB and the stadium as loud as it was, I believe it hurt us more often than it helped us.

Washington didn't punt until
there was less than 4 minutes on the clock in the 1st half.

JuCo transfer Derek Helton
isn't a very good punter from what I've seen. He averaged 32 yards a punt with his long being 38 yards. None were inside the 20. Last year we averaged 40.3 yards a punt and had a long of 59 by Dalfrey. Junior Josh Jasper averaged 43 yards a punt last year. Why isn't he still punting? Helton looks like he doesn't even try that hard.

Handing off to Trindon in the backfield isn't a good idea.
He needs to get the ball in space, either on options, toss sweeps, or screens.

I've said it before, I'll say it again.
Terrance Toliver will dance all over your face on his way to the end zone.

Official reviews took way too long

The LSU D played well on our side of the field
With the exception of the first and last drive of the game. I hope Miles made the D run a couple extra laps today for giving up that last touchdown, and I hope he made Chavis run with them.

Drake Nevis is a fly swatter.
He knocked down 2 or 3 passes and was close to knocking down a couple more.

All in all, I think it was a great road test at the very beginning of the season and ultimately will help build the character of the team tremendously. There were a few key missed tackles that if they were made, it would've been a totally different ball game. I believe jet lag played a bigger role than most realize.

Let's hope Chavis can drum up some intensity this week at practice and have them knocking the 'dores on their asses this weekend.
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81538 posts
Posted on 9/8/09 at 8:05 pm to
I agree with most of that except:

- Riley played terrible for the entire first half and Sheppard didnt do much either. Running to the outside to the side of the field that Levingston, Hawkins and Riley are on is pretty much 40 yards untouched guaranteed.

-I dont know why everyone hates Trindon getting handoffs because of that one play. Its hard to get yards when Lyle Hitt is driven 7 yards back by his man right into the running back like on that play.
This post was edited on 9/8/09 at 8:08 pm
Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
Member since Nov 2005
30979 posts
Posted on 9/8/09 at 8:11 pm to
quote:

Riley played terrible for the entire first half


Riley had 5 unassisted tackles, 1 assisted. That's a pretty good game. Sheppard had 2 unassisted tackles, 2 assisted tackles. Not bad and Sheppard didn't miss any tackles that I noticed. Hawkins also made 5 unassisted tackles, 2 tackles for loss.

Levingston is another story.

I just don't see Trindon doing that well the way they were using him. I hope I am proved wrong.
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
33300 posts
Posted on 9/8/09 at 8:12 pm to
Running Trindon from the TB spot requires much wider splits from the oline. This is exactly what UF does and it is very effective.
Posted by Duzz
Houston
Member since Feb 2008
10219 posts
Posted on 9/8/09 at 8:12 pm to
I agree with most of this, I saw riley wrap up that running back. Once we realized they were gonna use their backs often, we stopped him, cold.

We also was able to do alot more pass rush. We ended up in the backfield alot. Now we just need to get there maybe a split second faster so we can hit Tebow.

Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81538 posts
Posted on 9/8/09 at 8:14 pm to
Riley and Sheppard can make one great looking play and then they play like shite for 3/4 of the game. Go back and watch how many times he gets blocked to the ground, how many times they run right where he just vacated, how many times he got within 10 yards of the QB he was blitzing. Riley and Hawkins seem to try and get caught up with a blocker so they can chicken fight rather than try to make an open field tackle.
Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
Member since Nov 2005
30979 posts
Posted on 9/8/09 at 8:15 pm to
quote:

so we can hit Tebow.


I think you mean Larry Smith.
Posted by Duzz
Houston
Member since Feb 2008
10219 posts
Posted on 9/8/09 at 8:21 pm to
No , we gonna need to be fast to hit Tebow for the Florida game. We need to get into that backfield.
Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
Member since Nov 2005
30979 posts
Posted on 9/8/09 at 8:24 pm to
quote:

No , we gonna need to be fast to hit Tebow for the Florida game. We need to get into that backfield.


true, but that's in 4 weekends.
Posted by Duzz
Houston
Member since Feb 2008
10219 posts
Posted on 9/8/09 at 8:26 pm to
So until from now and then, we need to practice and want it. I hope they are vicious and violent in practice .
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
64697 posts
Posted on 9/8/09 at 8:28 pm to
quote:

Handing off to Trindon in the backfield isn't a good idea.


South Carolina wishes Trindon didn't get handoffs
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 9/8/09 at 8:30 pm to
quote:

Junior Josh Jasper averaged 43 yards a punt last year. Why isn't he still punting? Helton looks like he doesn't even try that hard.


Helton was hitting 50 yard punts in practice last week. He said he was having trouble dropping the ball due to the wind in the stadium. If he struggles again i'm sure we'll see jasper
Posted by lsujmk44
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
156 posts
Posted on 9/8/09 at 8:30 pm to
agreed. well put
Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
Member since Nov 2005
30979 posts
Posted on 9/8/09 at 8:36 pm to
quote:

South Carolina wishes Trindon didn't get handoffs


I knew someone was going to post that. So he took 1 hand off in his 4 year career and got 33 yards with it. And like Daniels said, Brett Helms blocked 2 people on that play. Either way, I should have said running Trindon up the middle isn't a good idea IMO.
This post was edited on 9/8/09 at 8:39 pm
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