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re: Does the Holy Land belong to The Church?

Posted on 11/4/23 at 4:35 pm to
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Larose
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 11/4/23 at 4:35 pm to
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Again, the RCC is built on the false premise that Peter was the first Pope
and the rock on which the church was founded. Neither is true. If Peter was indeed the first pope, he didn’t know it, nor did he ever claim to be.


Primacy of Peter

The link will give you at least 30 passages from scripture that will show you that Peter was first amongst equals amongst the apostles. Tell me what organization can function without someone leading the members. Name one. Jesus left an organized authority to build his church on earth.

Peter was first to recognize Jesus as the son of God and Jesus says that only his father could have given him that knowledge. As a result Jesus said that he would give him the keys to the kingdom which was what the kings did back then, with a trusted person when the king was leaving for a long absence. Jesus changed Simons name to Peter (Meaning rock) and said upon this rock i will build my church. what other apostle did Jesus say this to.

Your last sentence again references what was written and what wasnt so apparently you dont think that most of what Jesus taught his apostles wasn't important only what was written in the bible put together by the Catholic church, i see, so books that would fill the earth of Jesus's teachings you disregard.

I left you a link to Scripture that you probably never read for a bible christian and im invitiing you to consider the Scriptures that support Catholic teachings and not just the ones you feel support your interpretation.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 11/4/23 at 4:46 pm to
Peter never refers to himself as a leader of the disciples and as I wrote earlier, he refers to himself as a fellow elder. He didn’t even call himself the chief elder.
As for Peter being the rock, the Bible is replete with verses calling God or Jesus the rock.
Lastly, in the same verse where Jesus supposedly refers to Peter as the rock ( Petra) he calls Peter Satan.
I noticed your list of verses didn’t include that. ( fyi, this persons interpretation of scripture infers many things not written)
Listen, Peter was a great disciple and part of Jesus’ inner circle, but the Catholic Church bestows on him titles he never claimed for himself.
They do the same with Mary to a greater degree.
This post was edited on 11/4/23 at 4:50 pm
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