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re: Is the Koran or Quran taken out of context ?

Posted on 10/12/23 at 3:06 am to
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 10/12/23 at 3:06 am to
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They don't hate Jews for the fact they're Jewish. They hate Zionists


this is about as wrong as two men kissing.

the quran says, "death to all non-believers". there is no mention of "zionists".



Posted by Antoninus
Ravenna
Member since Sep 2023
1089 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 10:19 am to
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the quran says, "death to all non-believers". there is no mention of "zionists".
Please cite the surah that contains this command/instruction.

Most will refer to a cherry-picked excerpt from surah 2.190-191 ("kill them wherever you come upon them"), but that is a very, very bad translation and is usually taken out of context.

The context is the fight between Mohamed's followers and the pagans at Mecca who had persecuted them, NOT the Jews at Medina. "Them" was neither the Jews nor the Christians; it was those specific pagans. Second, the two verses read together are clearly a reference to a defensive war. Last, the Arabic word does not translate as "kill," but rather as something like "engage in mortal combat or warfare." Elsewhere in the very same verses, the text says NOT to (basically) kill innocents.

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Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
54120 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 12:59 pm to
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the quran says, "death to all non-believers


Believers in what?

Muhammad came along 600 years after Jesus resurrection...

If you read the last verse of the bible...it warns those who come along and try to add or edit the good book.

God didn't need any help or additional messengers. Mohammed claims otherwise

1 Corinthians chapter 13 4-8

Gods definition of love....

It's convicting and what we should all strive to be.

Muhammad teaches what a typical man would teach...this is how we know Islam is a fraud...
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