re: Aren't all these Republican doomsdayers just proving our point?

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If you’re stupid enough to think that our involvement is about freedom and Liberty, then you are an idiot.

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I would argue that was always the case, but Neocons loved to play regular conservatives for suckers to get the support needed for their New American Century plan.

The current-day default knee jerk reaction to call anyone not fighting the status quo (even if they only fight it for personal benefits or petty grudges) a RINO is the backlash against those Neocons for playing mainstream conservatives for fools this entire century.

Also frankly during the Trump era too many conservatives got hooked on the intoxicating effects of politics as entertainment, and what it felt like to have a major mainstream conservative icon for once (to be fair conservatives aren’t allow to have those by the mainstream media).

I wouldn’t want to go back in the corner voluntarily either, it’s going to take multiple elections where women with GEDs and men who are setting up book deals are rejected by actual swing voters for “mainstream” conservatives to get fed up with losing and accept being just an opposition party again (aka Ivy educated big business Republicans in charge again).