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re: Real climate cataclysm: Scientists Can No Longer Ignore Ancient Flooding Tales (Netflix)

Posted on 11/21/22 at 2:52 pm to
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 11/21/22 at 2:52 pm to
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That statement / position alone is pretty telling about the motivations of the current political movement (gradualists, uniformitarians...). There is no search for knowledge or truth from these folks. Some folks just want to be "right" to drive policy/funding/agendas...


The Empire strikes back…

https://theconversation.com/with-netflixs-ancient-apocalypse-graham-hancock-has-declared-war-on-archaeologists-194881

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With Netflix’s Ancient Apocalypse, Graham Hancock has declared war on archaeologists

Published: November 18, 2022 1.40pm EST

Flint Dibble
Marie-Sklowdowska Curie Research Fellow, School of History, Archaeology and Religion, Cardiff University




His name is Flint (foreshadowing???)

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Netflix’s enormously popular new show, Ancient Apocalypse, is an all out attack on archaeologists. As an archaeologist committed to public engagement who strongly believes in the relevance of studying ancient people, I feel a full-throated defence is necessary.


He seems to know something about dibbling in full throated behaviors



To the heart of the matter:

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Steph Halmhofer, a PhD candidate at the University of Alberta who studies the use of pseudo archaeology and erasure of indigenous heritage by far-right groups, suggests that these attacks on archaeologists function to increase his sense of authority with viewers. As Halmhofer explains: It’s about conspiracism and the positioning of Hancock as the victim of a conspiracy. The repeated disparaging remarks about archaeologists and other academics in every episode of Ancient Apocalypse is needed to remind the audience that the alternative past being proposed is true, regardless of the lack of conclusive evidence for it. And the vagueness of who this supposed advanced civilisation was, combined with the credence given to it by being in a Netflix-produced series, is going to make Ancient Apocalypse an easily mouldable source for anyone looking to fill in a fantasied mythical past.


Hancock and Carlson are obviously right wing loons…

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Dangers of pseudo archaeology

In the last decade we have seen how conspiracy theories and distrust in experts impacts the world around us. And research has shown how pseudo archaeology – especially when couched in anti-intellectual rhetoric – can overlap with more dangerous conspiracy thinking.


Shut up and OBEY

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Donnelly also believed in an advanced civilisation – Atlantis – that was wiped out by a flood over 10,000 years ago. He claimed that the survivors taught Indigenous people the secrets of farming and monumental architecture. Like many forms of pseudo archaeology, these claims act to reinforce white supremacist ideas, stripping Indigenous people of their rich heritage and instead giving credit to aliens or white people.


And obviously racists views

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A page from Donnelly’s now debunked 1882 book, Atlantis: The Antediluvian World. via the author This sort of “race science” is outdated and long since debunked, especially given the strong links between Atlantis and Aryans A page from Donnelly’s now debunked 1882 book, Atlantis: The Antediluvian World. via the author This sort of “race science” is outdated and long since debunked, especially given the strong links between Atlantis and Aryans proposed by several Nazi “archaeologists”. These are the reasons why archaeologists will continue to respond to Hancock. It isn’t that we “hate him” as he claims, it is simply that we strongly believe he is wrong. His flawed thinking implies that Indigenous people do not deserve credit for their cultural heritage. .


Patterned after Nazi thinking…

In short they indirectly label Hancock a right wing, racist Nazi who’s alternative ideas have been “debunked” while not addressing ANY of the content /claims made by Hancock or the series

* An interesting “truth” above is the Nazi infatuation with esoteric science and history. History (and science) as we have been taught is incomplete…

This post was edited on 11/21/22 at 2:58 pm
Posted by nopants
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Posted on 11/21/22 at 3:23 pm to
TPA thread = automatic upvote, and then get comfortable and ready for some interesting reading.

You are definitely one of the best posters on this site
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
In a sea of cognitive dissonance
Member since Mar 2013
11100 posts
Posted on 11/25/22 at 9:50 am to
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they indirectly label Hancock a right wing, racist Nazi


The “tolerant” folks keep doing their thing…

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2022/nov/23/ancient-apocalypse-is-the-most-dangerous-show-on-netflix
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Ancient Apocalypse is the most dangerous show on Netflix

A show with a truly preposterous theory is one of the streaming giant’s biggest hits – and it seems to exist solely for conspiracy theorists. Why has this been allowed?

A show for people who like to shout at you on Twitter … Graham Hancock, presenter of Ancient Apocalypse

Stuart Heritage Stuart Heritage @stuheritage Wed 23 Nov 2022 05.54 EST


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That’s the danger of a show like this. It whispers to the conspiracy theorist in all of us. And Hancock is such a compelling host that he’s bound to create a few more in his wake. Believing that ultra-intelligent creatures helped to build the pyramids is one thing, but where does it end? Believing that election fraud is real? Believing 9/11 was an inside job? Worse? If you were feeling particularly mean-spirited, you could suggest that Netflix knows this, and has gone out of its way to court the conspiracy theorists.
Posted by Boomdaddy65201
BoCoMo
Member since Mar 2020
2680 posts
Posted on 11/29/22 at 1:11 pm to
Here’s the true Pseudoarchaeologist:

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Steph Halmhofer, a PhD candidate at the University of Alberta who studies the use of pseudo archaeology and erasure of indigenous heritage by far-right groups, suggests that these attacks on archaeologists function to increase his sense of authority with viewers. As Halmhofer explains: It’s about conspiracism and the positioning of Hancock as the victim of a conspiracy. The repeated disparaging remarks about archaeologists and other academics in every episode of Ancient Apocalypse is needed to remind the audience that the alternative past being proposed is true, regardless of the lack of conclusive evidence for it. And the vagueness of who this supposed advanced civilisation was, combined with the credence given to it by being in a Netflix-produced series, is going to make Ancient Apocalypse an easily mouldable source for anyone looking to fill in a fantasied mythical past.


What are the chances she could 90 minutes with Hancock & Carlson on JRE?









I’m Verklempt, but my is preparedth.

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