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re: To hold the water or to drain.
Posted on 8/3/22 at 5:18 pm to Atlas_Shrugged
Posted on 8/3/22 at 5:18 pm to Atlas_Shrugged
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The way thermodynamics works when you start with all ice and it begins to melt the water/ice mixture is in equilibrium and the same temperature during the phase change only when all the ice is gone does the temperature of the water begin to rise.
This is true, and doesn't really address the question.
At the core this is a heat transfer and heat storage question. Heat loss is increased by the difference in temperature between two objects. So by draining the water the level of cold in your ice chest drops and the rate of heat loss decreases (less cold surface area). (A little bit - the air above the water is still pretty cold).
But the cold water has a MUCH higher capacity to retain the cold than the air above it in the chest. Easy answer - you keep the cold water in the chest.
Posted on 8/3/22 at 5:55 pm to Tigris
The core of the question is enthalpy of phase change, and heat transfer. Melted water has blown its wad from a thermodynamic standpoint, it is then only acting as a very efficient heat transfer fluid, allowing heat from the wall of the container to be carried to the ice. If the goal is to reduce ice melt, drain the water and insulate it in air. If the goal is to quickly get something cold, leave the water in.
Timelapse of cups melting
Timelapse of cups melting
This post was edited on 8/3/22 at 6:15 pm
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