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re: Anyone looking into the electric vehicle market?
Posted on 3/12/22 at 1:05 pm to SouthernInsanity
Posted on 3/12/22 at 1:05 pm to SouthernInsanity
I would say you're asking the wrong place, considering the makeup of this site. But...
I have two plug-in hybrids and I'm looking into getting an EV truck next year. I'm not looking into it because of gas prices, though, I've had a plug-in hybrid for five years now.
To be honest, most people who are against these vehicles just haven't driven one and probably don't know anyone who's owned one (or are just stubborn and shouldn't be listened to because of that).
So here's my run down of this market as someone who has five years history in it.
Pure EV
For a pure ev, no gas backup, there's a few things you need to know. First, the national infrastructure is just not there if you're planning on doing road trips. If you are planning on doing trips that are >180 miles or so, you need to map out charging stations in advance and learn to only charge up to 80%.
However, if you're using this to go to the marina, or work, it's totally fine. You can charge at home each night just like you charge your phone and you'll never pay a cent in gas again. Your electricity bill will maybe change by $20-40 a month, maybe more depending on how much you drive, but it's a lot cheaper than the gas you were paying before this recent spike in prices (which I don't think is going away).
You will also get to laugh at all the busters who are here talking crap when you blow them off the line even when towing your boat.
Plug In Hybrids
I think this is probably the easiest transition for most people to make. Most of these get 50-80 miles a charge which is still enough for me and my wife to get to work and back without using gas.
In EV mode you'll also get all the performance benefits of EV over gas. Faster off the line, brake regen, crazy power, etc.
But, you can also take this thing on a road trip without pre planning your trip and worrying about charging. For us, having this type of vehicle after Ida was a game changer. We could get out of the impact area on EV and get to a gas station away from all the drama.
Another benefit of that during Zeta was we used the battery we charged before the storm hit to run basic things like phone charging stations, radio, battery recharges, etc. The car battery lasted for two weeks doing that.
I also tow my 17' poling skiff with a plug-in hybrid rav4 and it's fine. I have plenty of power for it and I have 4 wheel drive in EV mode. The only thing I don't have is the kind of suspension I'd like so the rav4 doesn't get worn out by towing the boat.
Other than that, it's really up to you and what you're trying to do. I'll repeat, anyone hating on this really doesn't know what they're talking about or is just a stubborn bump on a log. I will never go back to a pure ICE after having a plugin and in the future as charging infrastructure improves I will abandon ICE entirely.
I have two plug-in hybrids and I'm looking into getting an EV truck next year. I'm not looking into it because of gas prices, though, I've had a plug-in hybrid for five years now.
To be honest, most people who are against these vehicles just haven't driven one and probably don't know anyone who's owned one (or are just stubborn and shouldn't be listened to because of that).
So here's my run down of this market as someone who has five years history in it.
Pure EV
For a pure ev, no gas backup, there's a few things you need to know. First, the national infrastructure is just not there if you're planning on doing road trips. If you are planning on doing trips that are >180 miles or so, you need to map out charging stations in advance and learn to only charge up to 80%.
However, if you're using this to go to the marina, or work, it's totally fine. You can charge at home each night just like you charge your phone and you'll never pay a cent in gas again. Your electricity bill will maybe change by $20-40 a month, maybe more depending on how much you drive, but it's a lot cheaper than the gas you were paying before this recent spike in prices (which I don't think is going away).
You will also get to laugh at all the busters who are here talking crap when you blow them off the line even when towing your boat.
Plug In Hybrids
I think this is probably the easiest transition for most people to make. Most of these get 50-80 miles a charge which is still enough for me and my wife to get to work and back without using gas.
In EV mode you'll also get all the performance benefits of EV over gas. Faster off the line, brake regen, crazy power, etc.
But, you can also take this thing on a road trip without pre planning your trip and worrying about charging. For us, having this type of vehicle after Ida was a game changer. We could get out of the impact area on EV and get to a gas station away from all the drama.
Another benefit of that during Zeta was we used the battery we charged before the storm hit to run basic things like phone charging stations, radio, battery recharges, etc. The car battery lasted for two weeks doing that.
I also tow my 17' poling skiff with a plug-in hybrid rav4 and it's fine. I have plenty of power for it and I have 4 wheel drive in EV mode. The only thing I don't have is the kind of suspension I'd like so the rav4 doesn't get worn out by towing the boat.
Other than that, it's really up to you and what you're trying to do. I'll repeat, anyone hating on this really doesn't know what they're talking about or is just a stubborn bump on a log. I will never go back to a pure ICE after having a plugin and in the future as charging infrastructure improves I will abandon ICE entirely.
This post was edited on 3/12/22 at 1:08 pm
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Posted on 3/12/22 at 1:12 pm to dandyjohn
Now for the
Negatives
I have to be honest, there really have been no negatives about owning plug-in hybrids.
Some people will talk about the lack of control or understanding of how to work on these cars, but that's not an EV issue, that's how all cars are going.
You could maybe say there's a negative in finding mechanics for EVs around here - like in the case of a recall. But again, for me, that hasn't happened.
Some minor negatives though are your battery power will plummet in the cold. If it's colder than 50F, my battery will go from summertime 60miles of range to wintertime 40miles. That's a combination of having to use electrical power for heat inside of the car and the fact that batteries just don't perform well in the cold.
So for a pure EV, that means a 300mile range may get reduced all the way down to 200miles.
Outside of that, honestly and truthfully, I could not be happier making these purchases and the 6k back from the feds felt great too (as does having not touched a gas pump in two months).
Negatives
I have to be honest, there really have been no negatives about owning plug-in hybrids.
Some people will talk about the lack of control or understanding of how to work on these cars, but that's not an EV issue, that's how all cars are going.
You could maybe say there's a negative in finding mechanics for EVs around here - like in the case of a recall. But again, for me, that hasn't happened.
Some minor negatives though are your battery power will plummet in the cold. If it's colder than 50F, my battery will go from summertime 60miles of range to wintertime 40miles. That's a combination of having to use electrical power for heat inside of the car and the fact that batteries just don't perform well in the cold.
So for a pure EV, that means a 300mile range may get reduced all the way down to 200miles.
Outside of that, honestly and truthfully, I could not be happier making these purchases and the 6k back from the feds felt great too (as does having not touched a gas pump in two months).
This post was edited on 3/12/22 at 1:14 pm
Posted on 3/13/22 at 10:28 am to dandyjohn
To be honest, most people who are against these vehicles just haven't driven one and probably don't know anyone who's owned one (or are just stubborn and shouldn't be listened to because of that).
Or maybe we work in the oil and gas industry an are tired of seeing our livelihoods being attacked and refineries being closed down Dick head.
Or maybe we work in the oil and gas industry an are tired of seeing our livelihoods being attacked and refineries being closed down Dick head.
Posted on 3/13/22 at 12:49 pm to dandyjohn
I don't know much about EVs. I admit it. But I have a simple question: Why can't you recharge the battery in a hybrid while you are driving and your vehicle is being powered by the gas engine?
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