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Just booked 22 days to Italy/Greece - any and all advice/tips appreciated

Posted on 6/28/21 at 10:43 am
Posted by Volt
Ascension Island, S Atlantic Ocean
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 6/28/21 at 10:43 am
This will be my first time anywhere in Europe so I'm excited as can be. Dates are Aug 17-Sept 9 and I fly in/out of Milan. In my 40s, in good shape (long walk/hikes are no issue), and traveling solo.

I know I want to see Rome, the Amalfi Coast, Athens, and one or two of the Greek isles. Of the bigger cities (Milan, Venice, Florence, Rome), how many days would you spend at each to see the major sites in each and which city could be skipped for more time elsewhere.

While on the Amalfi Coast, I would see several towns, including a possible trip to Naples, Vesuvius, and/or Pompeii.

Any ideas/suggestions for great sites and/or towns to see while moving from one major city to another? Are there some of these places worth staying the night?

Any do/don't at any of the above mentioned locations?

Of course I want to see as much as possible so that I would know what I would want to see more of on a future trip.

Car rental or public transportation?

Possible Itinerary (very rough list)
2 days - Milan
2 days - Venice
2 days - Florence
4 days - Rome
4 days - Amalfi Coast
1 day - Athens
5 days - Santorini and Mykonos

This is 22 days. Where to add/subtract days or skip? Where to leave an open day or more for small towns, etc.? Is this too much in this time frame?

I'm not a "foodie" and will be eating the simple breakfasts that are served and small snacks during the day, but will eat out for supper.

For accommodations, I am looking at MonasteryStays.com and I see no reason not to use these for most nights. They look great, awesome in fact.

This post was edited on 6/28/21 at 10:48 am
Posted by kciDAtaE
Member since Apr 2017
15790 posts
Posted on 6/28/21 at 10:57 am to
I wish I spent more time in Florence/Tuscany
Posted by jsquardjj
Member since Oct 2009
1318 posts
Posted on 6/28/21 at 11:14 am to
I would say you have too much travel in Italy planned. I would just do 1 day in Milan, skip Venice and turn Florence into a 4 day trip. One of the top cities in the world IMO.

You could also cut out Athens and fly direct into Santorini from Italy. I have not been to Athens, but most of the people who only spend one day there leave very unimpressed. The people that I know who enjoy Athens, spend at least a week there to get into the heart of the city.
Posted by Nole Man
Somewhere In Tennessee!
Member since May 2011
7199 posts
Posted on 6/28/21 at 11:23 am to
Lot of locations there baw! When you go to Europe my feeling is really try to avoid the "if it's Tuesday it must be..." experience. I.E. Trying to cram in multiple locations while you're there. Gotta think you'll always be coming back.

Me? I liked Greece, but that was eons ago. I'd say just Italy and think about Greece another year.

I'm not personally a fan of Venice and would lop that off the itinerary as noted. Way too touristy for me, adds some additional travel time. Just not for me. Others might differ.

Some snippets from another thread...

Florence is like one of the greatest places to visit on earth! Math won't add up exactly, but I would say at least base in Florence for a week. We stayed in the Florence View Apartments.Took day trips over to Sienna. Did some wine tours in the Tuscany Region. So much to do beyond visiting amazing Florence.

Didn't stay here, but learned about it later: Stay in a Country Villa In Tuscany?

Later took a train down to Orvieto on the way to Rome. Amazing medieval city on top of a mountain. As noted, it's well worth 1-2 days there.

Rome is no doubt amazing. 3 days minimum to scratch the surface. As in Florence and the Uffizi Gallery, make sure you buy tickets in advance to avoid the crowds. What to know.

Or bag all of that and go to this year's "In Spot On The TB": Croatia. Single man would do well on Hvar Island! Plenty of threads here on that topic. Our man Teddy Ruxpin's the wiz on planning that out and has a trip coming up in July!!


Posted by farmhands
Member since Sep 2010
202 posts
Posted on 6/28/21 at 11:26 am to
I would forego Milan and Venice. Spend the extra time in Florence if you are interested in Museums and the like.
If you are into outdoor activity consider visiting Crete for a few days and hike the Samaria Gorge before you hit Santorini/Mykonos. Crete also has some beautiful beaches on the western side of the island if I remember correctly.
Posted by HoustonGumbeauxGuy
Member since Jul 2011
29603 posts
Posted on 6/28/21 at 11:44 am to
Antique Tiger did an in-game trip thread when he went to Italy...2019 I think it was.

Tons of pics and advice, see if you can find that thread it was awesome

Posted by Pepperoni
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Member since Aug 2013
3486 posts
Posted on 6/28/21 at 11:48 am to
Sounds like a great opportunity.

quote:

Of course I want to see as much as possible...
I'd suggest not to see as much as possible in terms of city stops. Get the local flavor by staying extra night(s) if possible.

-- Signed, Envious
Posted by Mahootney
Lovin' My German Footprint
Member since Sep 2008
11875 posts
Posted on 6/28/21 at 11:54 am to
Travel time is gonna make this schedule hard. Plus, it's hard to see any place in only a day and feel like you were actually there.

With that said: Of the places you mentioned, Venice, Milan, and Athens are 1-day candidates.

Mainly about Venice -
Everyone that has never been to Venice feels compelled to go. However, most people that have been to Venice, don't feel compelled to go back.
You'll see recommendations to skip Venice and spend time elsewhere.... and they're not wrong. But, it's a hard thing to do. I think most people should just go ahead and go to check that place off the list, but don't spend more time than is necessary.
Now, there are some cool things to see in Venice. St Mark's and Doge's Palace are great.
And there are other things to fill up a day:
Rialto Bridge, walk around some, and have lunch/dinner overlooking the South waterway. Gondola ride if that's your deal. Maybe hop over to Murano/Burano.
But.... there's not much else to see here where I would trade an extra day in Venice for a day somewhere else.

If you do shrink Milan and Venice to 1 day each, both of those days should be allocated to Florence/Tuscany.
I could give you a whole week of things to do in this area.
Florence is easily 2 days, with a 3rd not being wasted. And Tuscany deserves 1 day At a Minimum! If pressed, I would split it 2 & 2. 2 days in Florence, 2 days in Tuscany.

Rome/Vatican is 3-4 days. Can't argue with the 4th day, but it can be done in 3.

Not sure what your plans are for Amalfi Coast. Sorrento, Positano, Capri, Ravello, Amalfi, Salerno... one, all?
Positano is #1 in my book. Capri was a cool day trip.
After a week of walking and sight-seeing, having this stop in the middle will be a welcomed respite.
3-4 days is about right, but once you leave, you'll always want to go back.

Not sure how you're travelling... I assume trains.
If by car, here are a few cool stops in Tuscany:
Siena, Montalcino, Montepulciano, & Orvieto.
Buy some wine & ship it home! Also lots of local farmers/families that'll serve lunch.

I haven't been to greece. So, you'll have to get feedback from others on that.
Enjoy your trip! Sounds super fun!
Posted by DumpsterFire
Member since Sep 2012
1450 posts
Posted on 6/28/21 at 11:57 am to
I second the idea to skip Venice and subtract a day from Milan. You can add those days to Florence and maybe a day trip or two in wine country between Florence and Rome. Hitting every major city sounds good when planning, but travel ends up eating a ton of your time. Also, really getting to know a city over the course of 4 days is much more enjoyable to me than popping in for a day or two.

I would also suggest cutting a couple days off of Mykonos. I loved my trip there, but 5 days is a long time unless you are really big into late night parties. 5 days in Santorini is perfect. Please don't take those days off Mykonos and put them in Athens as 1 day is more than enough.
Posted by Pepperoni
Mar-a-Lago
Member since Aug 2013
3486 posts
Posted on 6/28/21 at 12:04 pm to
The trip sounds intriguing.

I think this is at least one of theantiquetiger's photo posts that Gumbeaux Guy was talking about
https://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/travel/photos-from-my-italy-trip-more-images-add-to-op-6-11/77112755/
Posted by nolaTiger24
Member since Sep 2008
1548 posts
Posted on 6/28/21 at 12:30 pm to
With that busy trip I would want to spend as much time relaxing on the water in the Amalfi Coast as possible.

Take the train from Rome to Naples, then take a car and stay in Ravello. Day trip to Positano and Capris. Skip Naples and Pompeii.

The first 6 days are not ideal. You will have a 5 hour travel day (check out, travel, check in) every other day for an entire week.

Second half of your trip sounds more my speed.
Posted by Volt
Ascension Island, S Atlantic Ocean
Member since Nov 2009
2961 posts
Posted on 6/28/21 at 12:56 pm to
Thanks for all the replies.

I have heard and read that Venice is hit or miss for most and think I will skip it. I will have a half day in Milan on arrival and looks like I should leave it at that. I may also end up with another half day there on the last day.

Revised Itinerary
5 days Florence
5 days Rome
5 days Amalfi Coast
5 days Santorini/Mykonos (with most or all days on Santorini)

When I start booking rooms, I may leave an empty day between some of these stops to ad lib.

I think all of these locations are good home bases to explore those regions while not having to move/checkout/-in.
Posted by ManUFan
Mandeville, LA
Member since Sep 2017
132 posts
Posted on 6/28/21 at 1:11 pm to
I cannot recommend Rick Steve's travel books enough for where you will be going. You will get solid advice on everything from places to stay, restaurants, sites, and hints on things that will save you on time and money.

Rick Steves
This post was edited on 6/28/21 at 1:12 pm
Posted by Mahootney
Lovin' My German Footprint
Member since Sep 2008
11875 posts
Posted on 6/28/21 at 2:31 pm to
Lots of cool b&b's in Tuscany to bridge the Florence and Rome stays.
Castello delle serre for instance.
Neat castle in rapolano terme.

https://www.icastelli.net/en/castello-delle-serre

This post was edited on 6/28/21 at 2:36 pm
Posted by Tigre85
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2019
1919 posts
Posted on 6/28/21 at 3:14 pm to
Rome and Athens were awesome . Keep your wallet in your front pocket . Stepfather got distracted and a kid lifted his .
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
26597 posts
Posted on 6/28/21 at 3:16 pm to
Just my two cents, but I'd recommend carving out some time to visit some smaller towns in Italy. I enjoyed places like Alba and Modena much more than Florence or Rome.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
39590 posts
Posted on 6/28/21 at 5:20 pm to
I haven't been to Italy, but the total lack of love for northern Italy is throwing me off. Como and Lago di Garda look cool to me.

I tend to agree with the crowd to perhaps skip Greece. I spent three weeks on a Greek island and had a blast, which is to say, I don't think you'll get bored with your whole trip being in Italy if you went that route.
This post was edited on 6/28/21 at 5:23 pm
Posted by Nole Man
Somewhere In Tennessee!
Member since May 2011
7199 posts
Posted on 6/28/21 at 6:23 pm to
quote:

total lack of love for northern Italy is throwing me off.


Probably because most people haven't been to that part of Italy.

I haven't personally been; however, a close friend and his wife had an amazing time touring the Dolomites, visiting Lake Garda.

An Itinerary.
This post was edited on 6/28/21 at 6:23 pm
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 6/28/21 at 6:28 pm to
If you're not sure when you would visit it again I would make it a point to spend a day there.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
39590 posts
Posted on 6/28/21 at 6:45 pm to
That's what I figured but 22 days is a long time for Americans. Seems to me it could fit in.

Lakes, Tuscany, Amalfi would be a nice three weeks.
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