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Wiring a new house

Posted on 5/20/15 at 2:33 pm
Posted by blades8088
Covington
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 5/20/15 at 2:33 pm
What suggestions can be made to wire a house with for electronics? Looking to start drawing plans, and wondering the best thing to use would be?
Posted by GrammarKnotsi
Member since Feb 2013
9327 posts
Posted on 5/20/15 at 2:36 pm to
Cat6 to all rooms...Double drops if you can..
Posted by blades8088
Covington
Member since Nov 2008
4202 posts
Posted on 5/20/15 at 2:41 pm to
Would like to add, what is a good reciever to use to be able and connect iphones to such for when I wire outdoor speakers? And is just regular speaker wire the only option for them or is something better?

Would this board run surround sound when building? Currently, I have a Bose Cinemate 1SR and not sure if I will just use a soundbar or will go all out with surround sound. Im thinking I may just run the wire in the wall and leave it in attic and if I dont use it, oh well. But its there if needed. TIA
Posted by Jimbeaux28
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2007
4051 posts
Posted on 5/20/15 at 3:06 pm to
I think your search for answers to your questions will take you far beyond this thread.

I am researching this currently for my home I am about to start and it is mind blowing the possibilities.

For audio, check out htd.com if you are going to do it yourself.
Posted by WavinWilly
Wavin Away in Sharlo
Member since Oct 2010
8781 posts
Posted on 5/20/15 at 3:26 pm to
I'm not going to touch the surround sound receiver.

If I was building a new house, I would have multiple Cat6 cables run to every room in a home run configuration. That is have all the cables end up in a media/networking closet where you plan on bringing in your internet connection. Depending on the size/layout of the house, I may eve run a few to select ceiling locations to mount a WAP.

As for the sound wiring. The lady that built my house wired it for surround sound, but didn't punch it through the ceiling. So the hard part of running it through the walls is done and if I want to add surround sound, all I would have to do is drill a couple of holes in each speaker location.

ETA: if you really want to do it right, get a POE switch, patch panel, and some Cisco/Ubiquiti/Ruckus WAPs.
This post was edited on 5/20/15 at 3:31 pm
Posted by CubsFanBudMan
Member since Jul 2008
5060 posts
Posted on 5/20/15 at 3:28 pm to
I've seen pvc pipes in an office wall to make it easier to drop wires post-construction. Not sure if this is common or not.
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35482 posts
Posted on 5/20/15 at 4:23 pm to
quote:

I've seen pvc pipes in an office wall to make it easier to drop wires post-construction. Not sure if this is common or not.


Common in commercial. Usually it's metal conduit with ring and string for pulling wires. Not common in residential.

OP: What exactly do you want to play and where? How many rooms with music? Video distribution or local video? Different sources in different rooms or the same music everywhere?
Posted by blades8088
Covington
Member since Nov 2008
4202 posts
Posted on 5/20/15 at 4:25 pm to
Just a pretty basic setup. Same music, with sound in living room and outside. Will have a tv outside, so need it to be seperate from living room.
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35482 posts
Posted on 5/20/15 at 4:35 pm to
Pretty easy to do. You can do it the Sonos way and then you have music in any room you want whenever you want and if you want to add more rooms you save a little money and buy another.

If you're doing hard wired speakers everything should be a home run back to the receiver location. Most receivers have two zones so you could have a game playing in the family room and music playing outside. It's a pretty simple setup and cost effective.
Posted by OldManRiver
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2005
6922 posts
Posted on 5/20/15 at 4:43 pm to
quote:

Just a pretty basic setup. Same music, with sound in living room and outside. Will have a tv outside, so need it to be seperate from living room.

For audio only, this is a pretty trival thing these days. I just picked up a Yamaha 677 that allows my phone to power up the receiver, switch to Spotify or Pandora or just Airplay, and listen to my music outside all while my kids are watching TV inside. As long as you can run speaker wires easily to outside, your golden.

The caveat is that the cheaper receivers don't usually send HDMI audio/video to Zone 2, only analog. Thus, if you wanted to just have a single HDMI run to your TV outside, then you would have to step up to something like this which is almost twice the price. Just depends on your preferences.
Posted by blades8088
Covington
Member since Nov 2008
4202 posts
Posted on 5/20/15 at 5:14 pm to
Thanks for the input guys. Im not very familiar with the recievers as I have a pretty basic set up at my current house. What do you mean HDMI cant run in zone 2? If I get a seperate box for the tv outside wont I be able to just run a cable from the tv reciever to the audio reciever instead of a hdmi cord?
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35482 posts
Posted on 5/20/15 at 8:03 pm to
Yes. I'd run the outside tv off of its own box.
Posted by King George
Member since Dec 2013
5356 posts
Posted on 5/22/15 at 9:57 am to
Rough-in your data/media outlets in conduit. I'd suggest 1". As technology changes this will make it easy to replace whatever you're using now.
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20438 posts
Posted on 5/23/15 at 7:15 am to
In addition to everything said already, I would suggest adding an empty conduit with a blank in every room. Definitely use pvc conduits for your outlets, stubbed up into the attic.
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35482 posts
Posted on 5/23/15 at 8:53 am to
If you do conduit add a large conduit going down to the home run. That said running wires down walls in residential is simple unless there are fire stops in the wall. It's the between floor stuff that can be a pita.
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
33860 posts
Posted on 5/23/15 at 9:25 am to
quote:

If you do conduit add a large conduit going down to the home run. That said running wires down walls in residential is simple unless there are fire stops in the wall. It's the between floor stuff that can be a pita.



This. Conduit is cheap, will save you money if you need to rewire or upgrade, and protects against rodents chewing on wires. I don't know of any downside other than it may cost you $50.
Posted by KJason
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2008
1199 posts
Posted on 5/23/15 at 10:29 am to
I also have the Yamaha 677 and I love it

Read the instructions when you're optimizing the surround sound. It has an automatic feature with a microphone that is pretty slick.
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
14942 posts
Posted on 5/23/15 at 12:04 pm to
quote:

I am researching this currently for my home I am about to start and it is mind blowing the possibilities.


There have been a handful of threads on this in the past. Word of advice: don't find out what's possible and then attempt to choose from the possible. There are a ton of ways to do each thing (network, audio/video distribution...). Pick a thing that you want to do, and find out the ways you can do that. It can get quite cumbersome to read about awfully quick.
Posted by Rev1897
NOLA
Member since Dec 2008
782 posts
Posted on 8/9/15 at 5:51 pm to
So I'm in the middle of this right now and would love to solicit this board's help. I know enough about electronics to be dangerous, but I've never really had surround sound system worth anything. My house has been framed and we're starting electrical in September.

Where should I start, what sites should I use. I want it to be affordable.

Here's my setup: I have a great room (kitchen and living room) that's about 30'x25'...I want to install surround sound/home theater.

I also want a surround system in my bedroom (i may just do a soundbar and woofer as it's just 17x17 room) and a sound system outside on our back porch. If the system in the living room and the system in the porch connected I think that would make sense.

Fire away, folks.


Posted by tiger94gop
GEISMAR
Member since Nov 2004
2913 posts
Posted on 8/9/15 at 10:46 pm to
I put conduit in every room going to one single hub. I knew tech would change so I could pull it in and out if needed. I made a main hub and ran all my conduit to that room. Interior closet pre-attic. My house is foam so heat isn't an issue. Probably at most $300 in pvc, My house is 2700 with 4beds, an office, and Living room. If you run it yourself, leave string in it. I would do it once framed and before anyone else runs their stuff.
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