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re: Windows 10 unveiled - new Spartan browser, universal apps, Cortana, and more
Posted on 1/22/15 at 7:27 am to Street Hawk
Posted on 1/22/15 at 7:27 am to Street Hawk
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Smaller iPad? Bigger iPhone? Apple watch? They are just milking Steve's cash cows. Have they come up with anything revolutionary since 2010?
SO now Microsoft invented the hologram?
There's no point in coming up with new tech, or reworking decades old tech you can't do right or make work well enough that anyone will buy it. How's Google Glass doing? That huge arse "revolutionary" Microsoft surface table I was supposed to be seeing in every bar and restaurant bu now? How's that looking? Even Yosemite brah?
Get a clue dude.
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Posted on 1/22/15 at 8:04 am to TigerGman
Didn't Microsoft just announce that giant arse Surface Hub? That's a step in the right direction. Frankly, no one in their right mind believed those Surface tables would see adoption any time soon. The technology required to drive down costs enough to drive widespread adoption is simply not there.
I'm not going to downplay what Yosemite has brought to the table. It's the first release of OS X that I've really felt was solid in ages. Apple, though, has become far too isolated and out of touch. Handoff is pretty nifty. That's evident with the desperate release of the iPhone 6 Plus to appease the crowd with insecurities about size. For a while, it seems as though Apple and Samsung have been mirroring one another, which has become boring with the constant releases of (barely) marginal upgrades.
I'm personally ready to see some risky moves and people taking chances. Microsoft is coming out swinging between finally dropping DirectX 12, working towards a unified Xbox platform, and working towards Universal apps. It's nice to see them taking a step out of the shadows to try to make a little noise. I think the lessons they learned from trying (and failing) to force their way into the tablet/mobile market will lead them to shift focus towards making Windows a desktop juggernaut of a platform. Will it happen? Who knows. What I do know, though, is that they're shifting in the right direction as a company with their new approach to their software in favor of rapid, smaller updates over major releases and rewarding their loyal users with free upgrades. For a company with Microsoft's reputation, these are big jumps.
I'm not going to downplay what Yosemite has brought to the table. It's the first release of OS X that I've really felt was solid in ages. Apple, though, has become far too isolated and out of touch. Handoff is pretty nifty. That's evident with the desperate release of the iPhone 6 Plus to appease the crowd with insecurities about size. For a while, it seems as though Apple and Samsung have been mirroring one another, which has become boring with the constant releases of (barely) marginal upgrades.
I'm personally ready to see some risky moves and people taking chances. Microsoft is coming out swinging between finally dropping DirectX 12, working towards a unified Xbox platform, and working towards Universal apps. It's nice to see them taking a step out of the shadows to try to make a little noise. I think the lessons they learned from trying (and failing) to force their way into the tablet/mobile market will lead them to shift focus towards making Windows a desktop juggernaut of a platform. Will it happen? Who knows. What I do know, though, is that they're shifting in the right direction as a company with their new approach to their software in favor of rapid, smaller updates over major releases and rewarding their loyal users with free upgrades. For a company with Microsoft's reputation, these are big jumps.
This post was edited on 1/22/15 at 8:04 am
Posted on 1/22/15 at 8:17 am to TigerGman
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How's Google Glass doing?
Google Glass is not going away. It is very much an experimental product. No one thought that suddenly millions and millions would be using it overnight.
Google does things like that all the time. Puts out things that are basically experimental and uses what they learn in other products later.
This post was edited on 1/22/15 at 8:19 am
Posted on 1/22/15 at 8:21 am to Dijkstra
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Didn't Microsoft just announce that giant arse Surface Hub?
Yes, but there have been some extremely prohibitively expensive experimental versions of it for years.
The Apple sheep will bash MS for it, but if Apple announced an 84inch iHub tomorrow those same Apple sheep would go ape shite.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 8:53 am to SG_Geaux
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Yes, but there have been some extremely prohibitively expensive experimental versions of it for years.
Yeah, I remember those tables. I was just pointing out that their focus on Surface outside of the tablet market is still alive and well. In addition, the addition of streaming from an Xbox One to Windows 10 tablets makes the Surface brand even more valuable.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 9:13 am to Dijkstra
Can someone tell me what happened to windows 9?
Posted on 1/22/15 at 9:17 am to musick
They supposedly skipped 9 because lazy compatibility checks by vendors would lead to issues due to previous versions of Windows such as Windows 95 and Windows 98.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 10:35 am to stout
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KB/M on a PC will crush controllers on console.
I dunno what that means but when it happens... I challenge you to a duel.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 10:36 am to Hu_Flung_Pu
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KB/M on a PC will crush controllers on console.
Truth
Posted on 1/22/15 at 10:38 am to SG_Geaux
oh. Keyboard + Mouse.
Bet you can't guess who those downvotes are from
Bet you can't guess who those downvotes are from
This post was edited on 1/22/15 at 10:39 am
Posted on 1/22/15 at 10:38 am to SG_Geaux
I've read that cross-platform games will require users to use the Xbox One controller. That may not be true for all of them, but it'll be interesting to see if they take that route. I'd be amped if they allowed keyboard/mouse over controller.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 10:52 am to TigerMyth36
quote:Window 7 for life!
I actually love MS but if they even hint at moving the OS to yearly subscription then I will keep my Win 7 and Win 8.1 boxes forever.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 10:58 am to tigerpawl
It already been confirmed that the subscription rumor doesn't have any truth to it. The free upgrade is only available to Windows 7 and Windows 8 users for a year. After that, you'll have to purchase the upgrade if you didn't get it for free. Once you get it, though, it's permanent.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 11:38 am to Dijkstra
Makes sense to me. At first I was wondering what the business model would be if Windows 10 is really the last Windows (for a while at least), but it doesn't really change the way Windows is sold, as the majority of Windows sales are simply from new PC purchases. As you said, the 1-year promo for a free upgrade will help speed up adoption rate and avoid an irreparably negative perception like what happened with Win 8/8.1.
This post was edited on 1/22/15 at 11:42 am
Posted on 1/22/15 at 11:55 am to musick
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Can someone tell me what happened to windows 9?
They skipped it. Those are just BS marketing names anyway. For example "Windows 7" is actually Windows 6.1. XP was actually 5.1.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 9:15 pm to Dijkstra
The upgrade will be free so that, like iOS, your device older than 2-3 yes will be rendered useless causing an upgrade.
Posted on 1/23/15 at 7:37 am to tigabait01
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your device older than 2-3 yes will be rendered useless causing an upgrade.
Well, point out that Yosemite runs fine on 2007 hardware.
Posted on 1/23/15 at 10:06 am to TigerGman
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Well, point out that Yosemite runs fine on 2007 hardware.
Be careful with your claims- only the MacBook Pro and iMac from mid/late 2007 are supported. The rest of the 2007 models are not capable of running Yosemite.
This post was edited on 1/23/15 at 10:06 am
Posted on 1/23/15 at 10:18 am to Hopeful Doc
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The rest of the 2007 models are not capable of running Yosemite.
Well true but, it's 7 years old hardware we're talking about, and I'm pretty sure that MacBook Pro and iMac covers a major swath of what's still left out there in the real world. Just pointing out this Apple obsoletes hardware every few years myth is bullshite.
Posted on 1/23/15 at 11:29 am to TigerGman
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Well true but, it's 7 years old hardware we're talking about, and I'm pretty sure that MacBook Pro and iMac covers a major swath of what's still left out there in the real world. Just pointing out this Apple obsoletes hardware every few years myth is bullshite.
I'll agree and disagree. "2007 Hardware" is a loose term and covers everything from low-end Celerons to high-end Xeons. There's no real good reason for the Mac Pro from before '07 to not run Yosemite, even if restricted to those with upgraded graphics cards. The problem many people have is that if it doesn't pass the Apple Alpha test for whatever reason, it's not only not supported, but not possible to upgrade. With the vast majority of other OS, including Windows since that's what the thread's original intent was, hardware support is all that's needed. You don't need the blessing of the software writer to upgrade your OS. You may run into minor problems with drivers and unsupported features, but to many intelligent consumers, the ability to weigh risk-benefit yourself of features/lack of features in the decision to make an upgrade is an important one, and unfortunately Apple does lack that to a bigger extent than others. I'm not suggesting that people who use it aren't intelligent consumers by any means- I, for one, own a MacBook (mid 2007, snow leopard, my main recording station for the time being), AirPort Extreme (current gen), iPhone 5s and enjoy the products just fine. They just weigh that decision differently than others. And suggesting that MBP and iMac are the majority of what's out there is probably right. OS upgrades for the '07 macbook ended with Mountain Lion. It's entirely plausible that the lack of upgradeability due to hardware out phasing is what caused many users to buy a new product and abandon their functioning laptops. I don't know offhand for certain, but I believe the same era Mac mini and previous generation MacBook Pro were done away with at the same time. Again, don't have numbers in front of me, so I may be off base, but I believe the 08 MacBook was very close to on par performance wise to the 07 variety, leading me to scratch my head as to why the '08 was supported but the mid-07 was not. I need to look at the GPUs to confirm that there were only minor differences- it has been a while. The top-down decision to not support it was disappointing to me.
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