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re: Why Are African Americans The Majority Of Minority Oppression Convo?

Posted on 8/20/17 at 2:55 pm to
Posted by Stagg8
Houston
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Posted on 8/20/17 at 2:55 pm to
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ok well lets throw out all the wealthy blacks,indians,asians, and arabs in the United States from this discussion. Why are we not seeing a huge amount of armed robberies and other violent crimes committed by asian,indians, and middle easterners here then. Why are the lower income indians,asians, arabs able to grow up without these alleged barriers to entry that all these african americans are out protesting against? Why are these other minorities not out protesting.......


Do you have data to show that there's a statistically significant difference in crime on a per capita basis between poverty level African-Americans and poverty level immigrants in the US? If so, then it's a valid discussion point. If not, then it's not.
Posted by LordSaintly
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Posted on 8/20/17 at 2:55 pm to
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Why are the lower income indians,asians, arabs able to grow up without these alleged barriers to entry that all these african americans are out protesting against?


The lower income members of these groups don't live here. They are still in their home countries.
Posted by SoulGlo
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Posted on 8/20/17 at 2:59 pm to
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Asians, Indians, and Middle Easterners


I see your groups and raise you one more…

Black immigrants from other countries seem to have less of a problem being successful than native blacks.


The culprit is a mindset engrained into generations of native blacks through identity politics. It is mental oppression and it is unbelievably cruel. All in the name of "equality" and "help."
Posted by Balloon Huffer
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 8/20/17 at 3:11 pm to
risking ban,,, the reason is simple.


All other minorities have economic pride and value independence. Hispanic cultures VALUE HARD work and self-reliance. Asian cultures VALUE education. What exactly does American black culture value? Honest question.

There were as many chinese slaves building the railroads as blacks in this country, does anyone know this? No, they don't,, because chinese people are living for today and tomorrow, not yesterday.

Here is a simple question to those who believe skin color is truly the end all be all detriment to minorities.....

Why is it -------- that African immigrants have far greater success in this country than African Americans?

African immigrants actually have DARKER skin color, yet do far better in education and business.

fricking strange right? Or is it really?

edit:guy above me said basically the same thing.
This post was edited on 8/20/17 at 3:12 pm
Posted by dabigfella
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 8/20/17 at 3:19 pm to
These were all great answers and I truly do believe all the other minorities, including the african blacks do alot better bc they're raised in better family units. So the real question is, how do we rebuild the black family in the united states.

How do we get more fathers to be around for their kids?
How do we reduce drug use in black america?
How do we increase the graduation rates?

For being such a small part of the american population, we seem to recently have been overtaken by their demands to decrease racism and help them out. How do we help them without forgetting our history and how do we get them to succeed at normal rates like the other minorities in this nation?
Posted by Iowa Golfer
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Posted on 8/20/17 at 3:21 pm to
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Posted on 8/20/17 at 3:23 pm to
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Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Posted on 8/20/17 at 3:24 pm to
Education is very important to the Asian and Indian communities. Asian parents are very hard on their children to be successful.
Posted by Iowa Golfer
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Posted on 8/20/17 at 3:24 pm to
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Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 8/20/17 at 3:24 pm to
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Asian parents are very hard on their children to be successful.


You got stung bee. Why not stung by A
Posted by texashorn
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 8/20/17 at 3:27 pm to
One reason is that they are easy targets to be used by the Communists and white liberals (redundant?).
Posted by tickfawtiger
Killian LA
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Posted on 8/20/17 at 3:34 pm to
"stagg"...just HOW do you think these minorities BECAME doctors and engineers ????? Do you think these "life rewards" were GIVEN to them ?
Ever heard of personal responsibility ? Does welfare state ring a bell ?
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 8/20/17 at 3:37 pm to
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plus, a large majority of legislation written to either help or hurt minorities was written under that "default" setting... including other races is a relatively new concept, in the grand scheme of things, here in America...


This is one of the most accurate assessments I have seen on this board.

I have never said that Blacks need to have special treatment. But it is easily proven that many laws (particularly post reconstruction) were designed specifically to limit Black growth.

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but i do agree with a large sentiment of your post, and i know there are a lot of AA's that would agree with you as well... they know that their community has to do better, but i think there isn't a consensus on how to do it, and unfortunately, they go with what's comfortable rather than the road less taken... they get stuck in a spiral of bad decisions, either by choice or circumstance, and it becomes harder to break with each generation... our greatest chance is to embrace our differences, put them aside, rather than magnify them, and work towards a common goal of equality and betterment, amongst all races...



In all seriousness, AMEN.
Posted by dabigfella
Member since Mar 2016
6687 posts
Posted on 8/20/17 at 3:40 pm to
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I have never said that Blacks need to have special treatment. But it is easily proven that many laws (particularly post reconstruction) were designed specifically to limit Black growth.


So you're saying there are specific laws in place to hold african americans down but not any other minorities? Can you please share some of these, I'd love to educate myself on this sunday afternoon.....
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 8/20/17 at 3:40 pm to
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Ever heard of personal responsibility ? Does welfare state ring a bell ?


Yes. Personal responsibility is very important.

But you only focus on that once you have achieve equality by law (not equity) and the right to vote.

In the past 50 years, I would say Blacks have made good progress. There are black professionals in every field.
Posted by Stagg8
Houston
Member since Jan 2005
12986 posts
Posted on 8/20/17 at 3:40 pm to
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"stagg"...just HOW do you think these minorities BECAME doctors and engineers ????? Do you think these "life rewards" were GIVEN to them ?
Ever heard of personal responsibility ? Does welfare state ring a bell ?


The same way anyone becomes a doctor? I'm unclear your point.

My point is that the entire premise of this discussion is innately flawed. I don't think that's really up for debate. "Why is it that the top 1 % of highly-credentialed immigrants now living in River Oaks don't seem to have the same societal issues as a gross range of the ~ 40 million unselected African Americans in the US; including those living in poverty?"
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Posted on 8/20/17 at 3:43 pm to
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Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 8/20/17 at 3:47 pm to
Why do you think that a race of people who were oppressed for nearly 200 years in this country didn't just fix everything on their own after a couple of generations?
Posted by dabigfella
Member since Mar 2016
6687 posts
Posted on 8/20/17 at 3:48 pm to
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My point is that the entire premise of this discussion is innately flawed. I don't think that's really up for debate. "Why is it that the top 1 % of highly-credentialed immigrants now living in River Oaks don't seem to have the same societal issues as a gross range of the ~ 40 million unselected African Americans in the US; including those living in poverty?"


My point is why aren't we having asian protests or indian protests for equality? You're completely missing the point of this but to your point still, there are way more successful indians,asians,middle easterners in houston than there are african americans and thats with african americans making up a larger percentage of the population than those 3 groups put together probably. Anyhoo, why are these other minorities NOT PROTESTING for changes?
Posted by Stagg8
Houston
Member since Jan 2005
12986 posts
Posted on 8/20/17 at 3:49 pm to
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there are way more successful indians,asians,middle easterners in houston than there are african americans


Are there really?
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