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Why Are African Americans The Majority Of Minority Oppression Convo?

Posted on 8/20/17 at 2:32 pm
Posted by dabigfella
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Posted on 8/20/17 at 2:32 pm
I am not trolling, nor am I looking to get banned. What I mean to ask is why are minorities like Asians, Indians, and Middle Easterners able to succeed at very high rates in the United States without any of the oppression african americans seem to say they are facing in this country? I know alot of very successful minorities from those 3 particular backgrounds and none of them seemed to find it hard to get into good schools, get good jobs, and overall become productive citizens. Why is it that the spotlight seems to always feature african americans and their plight with cops,jobs,education,etc....
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 8/20/17 at 2:33 pm to
Because white people in urban areas who probably never see black people think they are the most oppressed group in the country.
Posted by UnAnon
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Posted on 8/20/17 at 2:35 pm to
White Priveledge conversation covers that.


Posted by dabigfella
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Posted on 8/20/17 at 2:36 pm to
haha, Im serious Sabi, I live in the best neighborhood in Houston and there are a ton of minorities, lots of indians, asians, arabs and these guys have no issues thriving in our society, why is it that african americans seemingly struggle more and have more frequent run ins with cops, etc. You never hear of indians getting pulled over and having issues with cops, nor with asians.....it seems like something with a particular group which nobody wants to openly admit.

Aren't african american males like 6% of the population of the US and 50% of the violent offender population in prison? Aren't these ballpark figures correct? I remember reading those numbers somewhere before.
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 8/20/17 at 2:36 pm to
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why are minorities like Asians, Indians, and Middle Easterners able to succeed at very high rates in the United States without any of the oppression african americans seem to say they are facing in this country?


Culcha
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 8/20/17 at 2:37 pm to
We're getting to the point where EVERYTHING:

* History
* Medical Care
* Law Enforcement
* Housing
* Education

is judged by how it affects 13% of the population
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 8/20/17 at 2:38 pm to
If you read the bell curve you'll see that blacks need by far the most help.

They have an absentee father rate of 79% in America - they struggle with delayed gratification more than any other group. Compare that the the absentee father rate of say - the Japanese. It's laughable that we're not allowed to speak the truth.
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Posted by dabigfella
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Posted on 8/20/17 at 2:38 pm to
correct, but why isn't the issue at hand the african american community and not oppression of minorities bc minorities are not oppressed and many are thriving in our nation. You watch Antifa and you don't really see any Asians or Indians amongst them. Im sure there are a few here and there but for the most part we're talking about an issue with african american culture that nobody seems to want to openly discuss and work on.
Posted by Stagg8
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Posted on 8/20/17 at 2:39 pm to
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I live in the best neighborhood in Houston and there are a ton of minorities, lots of indians, asians, arabs and these guys have no issues thriving in our society,


You're unsure how a bunch of engineers and MDs in River Oaks don't have the same issues as economically depressed individuals?
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 8/20/17 at 2:39 pm to
Do Irish-Americans blame their failures in life on the potato famine?

Do unemployed Mexicans blame
Pancho Villa?
Posted by chRxis
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Posted on 8/20/17 at 2:39 pm to
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Why is it that the spotlight seems to always feature african americans and their plight with cops,jobs,education,etc....

IMO, it's mainly because for basically all of American history it has been that AA was "the" minority.... going back to the formation of the US, therefore it's more the default as far as any discussion on race in America...

plus, a large majority of legislation written to either help or hurt minorities was written under that "default" setting... including other races is a relatively new concept, in the grand scheme of things, here in America...

but i do agree with a large sentiment of your post, and i know there are a lot of AA's that would agree with you as well... they know that their community has to do better, but i think there isn't a consensus on how to do it, and unfortunately, they go with what's comfortable rather than the road less taken... they get stuck in a spiral of bad decisions, either by choice or circumstance, and it becomes harder to break with each generation... our greatest chance is to embrace our differences, put them aside, rather than magnify them, and work towards a common goal of equality and betterment, amongst all races...

Posted by dabigfella
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Posted on 8/20/17 at 2:40 pm to
well why are those minorities not facing the same oppression as african americans? I dont see rallies coming from the indians of houston nor the asians of houston.......
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 8/20/17 at 2:40 pm to
People look at the numbers and they think the only way the large disparity makes sense is if the system is prejudiced against them. It's easier than tackling the real issue, culture.

During the Civil Rights movement, you had members of the black community become anti-white, anti-Christian, anti-West. If it "belonged" to the white man, they were against it.

That kind of mentality is what brought about the gang culture.
Posted by Aristo
Colorado
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 8/20/17 at 2:40 pm to
Because their so called leaders such as Sharpton need them to keep buying in on the lie so "leaders" stay rich and the sheep stay in the barn.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
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Posted on 8/20/17 at 2:42 pm to
Squeaky wheels and such.
Posted by Stagg8
Houston
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Posted on 8/20/17 at 2:43 pm to
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well why are those minorities not facing the same oppression as african americans? I dont see rallies coming from the indians of houston nor the asians of houston.......


Ascertainment bias. You're comparing an enriched group of people (i.e. folks who are in the top 10 % of the bell-shaped curve in their home country) to the entire bell-shaped curve of another group. You don't think that the entire population, including economically depressed folks, in India, Indonesia, Pakistan, etc have many of the same problems as economically depressed Americans?
Posted by dabigfella
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 8/20/17 at 2:45 pm to
you cant compare people in POS countries to americans. If you're an american, it doesn't matter how poor you are bc you can get a great education and scholarships and move up the social ladder pretty freely. Being born into povery in the POS nations you mentioned does not allow that. Plenty of the rich foreigners in this nation, my parents included, came to this country with no money to their name and worked their way up. All im saying is its not a coincidence that tons of minorities are able to make it in this country except for a few certain groups......the issue is how do we fix the problems that one group faces.
Posted by Stagg8
Houston
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Posted on 8/20/17 at 2:48 pm to
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All im saying is its not a coincidence that tons of minorities are able to make it in this country except for a few certain groups.


And my point is your statement/position is textbook ascertainment bias. I could just as easily say, "the crime rates for African-Americans in the U.S. have to be artificially inflated because of all the African-American folks that work in O&G, the Med Center, and NASA, I don't know a single convicted felon."
Posted by Capital Cajun
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Posted on 8/20/17 at 2:49 pm to
The other minority's listed focus on family and education. Both important keys to success.
Posted by dabigfella
Member since Mar 2016
6687 posts
Posted on 8/20/17 at 2:50 pm to
ok well lets throw out all the wealthy blacks,indians,asians, and arabs in the United States from this discussion. Why are we not seeing a huge amount of armed robberies and other violent crimes committed by asian,indians, and middle easterners here then. Why are the lower income indians,asians, arabs able to grow up without these alleged barriers to entry that all these african americans are out protesting against? Why are these other minorities not out protesting.......
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