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re: War! What is it good for?! Absolutely.....everything?
Posted on 6/18/14 at 12:01 am to TX Tiger
Posted on 6/18/14 at 12:01 am to TX Tiger
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You just said America doesn't run.
It doesn't. America didn't run from that war. Its politicians did.
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Because if we didn't fight them there, they would follow us back home and we'd all be communists today.
It has nothing to do with whether or not they follow us home or not. An ideology like communism must be snuffed out, whatever the cost. I would have been willing to sacrifice a million American lives to stop its advance, just as I'm willing to sacrifice a million American lives now to snuff out jihad.
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 12:02 am to RogerTheShrubber
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It's the people ware voting into office. So Us.
I didn't vote for these people? Did you? It sounds to me like you're part of the problem.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 12:14 am to RollTide1987
This was a good troll. It's sad that I was inclined to believe it, knowing what I know about this board.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 12:20 am to Tigerlaff
Posted on 6/18/14 at 12:33 am to Tigerlaff
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This was a good troll. It's sad that I was inclined to believe it, knowing what I know about this board.
The sad thing is, knowing his post history, I'm inclined to believe it wasn't simply a troll. Regardless, I know people personally who would agree with his "point" and its sickening
Posted on 6/18/14 at 5:09 am to Tigerlaff
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This was a good troll. It's sad that I was inclined to believe it, knowing what I know about this board.
I don't believe this was a troll at all.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 8:41 am to Bard
The world in conflict and war is the norm. The world at peace has always been a short lived aberration.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 9:04 am to RollTide1987
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What's so disturbing and disgusting? War has led to more innovation, has brought more people together, and has advanced society further along than a substantially long peace ever could. What is 60 million dead compared to what was given to mankind by their sacrifices?
Said the living man with all of his limbs. Said the man with all of his sons and daughters alive and well. Said the man that sleeps at night without waking from a nightmare that he can never leave on the battlefield. But what......what does the other man say?
This post was edited on 6/18/14 at 6:17 pm
Posted on 6/18/14 at 9:42 am to RollTide1987
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War is part of the human condition. It is in our nature to wage violence on a massive scale and has been true for our species since man first crawled out of the slime. It's wired in our genes. Since 1945, we have been fighting desperately to ignore that ancient instinct. And while we have the whole world has gone to hell. The Middle East is on fire, thousands die in regional conflicts almost every day, and nothing gets solved. It's past time for another global conflict, a conflict that will reaffirm the status quo and rid the world of a lot of the bad blood that has overflown its veins.
Ummm...in terms of percentages, fewer people die from today from violence than at any time in recorded history. In other worlds, you are a complete fricking idiot.
Edit: Is this OP dumber than the Matheiu/ Jefferson poster from the other day? I thought it could not get any worse and then boom...half the posts on the political board.
This post was edited on 6/18/14 at 9:48 am
Posted on 6/18/14 at 9:57 am to Elvis Parsley
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The world in conflict and war is the norm. The world at peace has always been a short lived aberration.
Does my theory seem plausible or am I insane?
Posted on 6/18/14 at 11:01 am to Bard
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We simply aren't a society that can thrive in a prolonged peace for long. We are a society that, if not given something for all (or almost all) to rally behind, we fall into self-destruction. Look at the increases in crime, the increases in cities going bankrupt, the increases in people taking government subsidies, the increase in drug abuse, the increase in teen pregnancies, etc over the past 50 years. Remember 9/11? Remember for that brief, shining moment when Americans (and even people of other nations) stood together? That lasted for all of a day or two but it proves my point. When we are faced with a truly serious threat, we bond together and rise above differences, but when left alone to our own devices for too long we lessen.
You realize that for all those "unifying wars" the debt still rose, the infighting still existed, and nothing came from any Cold War conflict of benefit that you can note. The advancement of civilization is not a byproduct of a continued state of war.
Bard, you disappoint greatly with this view of the world.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 11:22 am to CollegeFBRules
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You realize that for all those "unifying wars" the debt still rose, the infighting still existed, and nothing came from any Cold War conflict of benefit that you can note.
You are absolutely correct about the debt and the infighting, I don't know that anything can completely curtail them. Maybe it's the healing and distance of time, but neither the debt nor the infighting seem to have been as stark as it is now (for example, the debt has increased more under this President than it has during the tenures of all other Presidents, and his predecessor had that dubious distinction before him).
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Bard, you disappoint greatly with this view of the world.
Sorry CFB, I just can't see it any other way. As the baby-boomers (and following generations) have taken over, where are our moon landings? Our interstate system? Our St Louis Arch? Our Mt Rushmores? Our Hoover Dams? Our Motowns?
Sure, we've had nifty technological advancements that have made life easier over the past 40 years, but aside from the coming of the internet there hasn't been anything our country has done that I can think of that has been truly outstanding.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 12:04 pm to Bard
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anything our country has done that I can think of that has been truly outstanding.
In a global conversation, you can't judge humanity by the accomplishments or failures of one country.
Go watch some TED talks or view Google's "Moonshot Thinking" on the innovations in medicine and people pushing forward with bringing space travel to private tourists.
You want giant projects financed by government as a measure of a country's success. You have to look closer, look smaller than government to find success and be amazed. Governments are broke, they've spent themselves out of inspiration, but inspiration is still there--look at Maker Faires to see the creativity, ingenuity, and just plain awesomeness of humanity.
Whatever you do, stop letting government be a marker for success or failure on the levels you are talking about. People are inspirational and dream and don't need the death and ruin of war to accomplish amazing feats.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 12:25 pm to CollegeFBRules
quote:This thread is insane ... batshit insane.
Please tell me this is a joke.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 12:26 pm to Gmorgan4982
Yes it is.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 1:15 pm to Elvis Parsley
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But what does the other man say?
What other man are we referring to? If it's Adolf Hitler, then the other man says: "I want some more!"
Posted on 6/18/14 at 1:30 pm to Sentrius
the op is just a gay gump trying to compensate for being gay.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 3:28 pm to RollTide1987
It's absolutely hilarious that you are bemoaning "socialism" and "communism" while trumpeting a strong, unifying government intervention that spreads the wealth I mean democracy around through force. Neo-cons, like social cons, lack self-awareness sometimes.
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