re: Uh oh, some people in Georgia are offended over a license plate

"Don't chooo be DENIGRATIN' mah great great grandpappy, ya fancy britched Yankee!"

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Last I check, the SCV isn't a hate group. It is a group dedicated to the memory of those who fought for the Confederacy.

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I believe the Southern Poverty Law Center calls them a hate group.

Of course, the SPLC probably considers all of us a hate group also.

LOL at people who claim they want to display this flag "to honor my ancestors" Really? What do you do to honor your hundreds of other ancestors? Spend a lot of time or effort on that? You have a little WWI memorial on your car too? Please

I'm not at all ashamed that my ancestors fought for the south, but I think we all know the real reason that some people like to fly this flag.

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LOL at people who claim they want to display this flag "to honor my ancestors" Really? What do you do to honor your hundreds of other ancestors? Spend a lot of time or effort on that? You have a little WWI memorial on your car too?

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Don't understand your point here. Who is promoting displaying the battle flag to 'honor my ancestors?'

The OP is about the SCV emblem as an option on a GA plate. The SCV is an organization about the sons of confederate veterans. What is more appropriate than having the battle flag as part of their logo? Do you think the SCV is a 'hate' organization?

If so you are just ignorant.

I have not seen anyone defending rednecks flying the battle flag on their jacked up pickup trucks or waving the flag at a KKK rally. If someone is applauding that, please point it out and direct your commentary to them.

What most of us are saying is that honoring the battle flag as a unique part of our national history is not a divisive activity..

And to denigrate the entire populace who honor the service of their CSA soldier ancestors is beyond disgraceful.

I know you like to take the easy way out with your faux outrage over all the slack-jaws waving the battle flag in your face, but I would wager that you are looking for things to vent your pent-up anger over.

My ire is directed at those who want to denigrate a whole population of a unique era in American history - which had to have a 'winning' side and a 'losing' side. Both sides comprised some of the most honorable people this country has ever produced.

I would take any randomly selected 'slack-jawed' confederate soldier to baby-sit my granddaughter over any random selection you would be capable of selecting out of the general population today.

Our moral and ethical outrages now are functions of the words people use rather than what is in their hearts. People were just 'better' back then in terms of honesty, integrity, responsibility, hospitality, compassion, and wholesome work.

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I know you like to take the easy way out with your faux outrage over all the slack-jaws waving the battle flag in your face, but I would wager that you are looking for things to vent your pent-up anger over.

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im not outraged or angry at all

There is a local bbq chain here in Columbia, the owner of which loves to display the battle flag (along with various anti-Lincoln tracts and revisionist civil war literature) in his restaurants. He also happens to be an avowed known racist. Quite a coincidence eh?

The extent of my outrage? - I dont eat there. (the bbq is shitty anyway, ftr)

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And to denigrate the entire populace who honor the service of their CSA soldier ancestors is beyond disgraceful.

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OK, then I'm just criticizing the 99% of people who put the flag on their car, motorcycle, tshirt or whatever without a single thought of any honorable soldiers. You and I both know the real reason they love it is because its a thumb in the eye to black people. Cmon, be honest.

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...listing the entire history of your toothless, backwoods genealogy...Oh, The South, how I love your misplaced pride in your shameful past and your unwavering worship of a vagabond Jewish hippie whom you'd have hated had you actually known .

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It is comments such as yours that helps put the misanthropy in misanthrope and for which, probably, I will have to hit my knees and rely on the mercy of that "vagabond Jewish hippie".

But for now...

1. You might want to have your meds checked.
2. While we are on the subject of denigrating peoples' "toothless, backwoods genealogy"... As a bird, the Jayhawk does not exist; it is as fabulous as the mythological roc. But Jayhawkers were very real, indeed, in the days leading up to the Civil War. A Jayhawker was one of a band of anti-slavery, pro-Union guerrillas coursing about Kansas and Missouri, impelled by substantially more malice than charity. Jayhawkers were undisciplined, unprincipled, occasionally murderous, and always thieving. Indeed, Jayhawking became a widely used synonym for stealing.

For all this, Jayhawking carried no social stigma. Some prominent, influential and highly respected leaders were associated with Jayhawking. Among them was James Henry Lane, the self-styled 'Grim Chieftain,' a lanky Hoosier demagogue whose biography included terms in the United States House of Representatives and Senate, a penchant for fiery oratory, and a tendency not to repay his debts. Another was New England-born Dan Anthony, an ardent abolitionist and the brother of suffragette Susan B. Anthony, who was commemorated a century later by a poorly planned and short lived dollar coin.

Probably the most overt Jayhawker of all was Charles R. 'Doc' Jennison. In truth, Jennison was unique. A runty, consumptive dandy, originally from New York, he practiced medicine briefly in Wisconsin before coming to Kansas to practice the more lucrative trade of horse stealing. For years, the lineage of many good horses in Iowa and Illinois was said to be 'out of Missouri by Jennison. LINK

I'm wondering how your Civil War pedigree could be symbolized on a license plate Kansas might issue to honor the Sons of those Civil War Jayhawkers of Jennison's ilk?

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last I check, the SCV isn't a hate group. It is a group dedicated to the memory of those who fought for the Confederacy.

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SCV has been taken over by crazies. Sorry. Look up the people in charge.

Clearly there are people who just want to remember great-great-gramps. But it it filled with kooks today.

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There is a local bbq chain here in Columbia, the owner of which loves to display the battle flag (along with various anti-Lincoln tracts and revisionist civil war literature) in his restaurants. He also happens to be an avowed known racist. Quite a coincidence eh?

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Maurice has semi-retired and my understanding is a family member (son?) is running the business now. I believe the flag has been removed from most / all the restaurants.

I followed his situation closely and saw nothing that led me to believe he was an 'avowed racist.' The NAACP got its panties in a bunch mainly from a tract he had in a restaurant that dared suggest that in the end there was somewhat of a silver lining to slavery in that the black race was able to come to the US in a significant number.

PS - Black folks like to eat at Piggy Park also.

But please, continue to overstate things for people in Louisiana who might not be familiar with the situation.

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What is your connection with the SCV to flavor your comments??

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I wanted to join in the 90's. I have lots of relatives in the civil war & my dad had started genealogy going way back.

At that time there were groups not even saying the US Pledge of Allegiance. But the one I wanted to attend was S Georgia & basically since I worked at a place that hired blacks & paid them well, it was told to me I shouldn't go.

I've looked them up time to time to see what they were up to since then.

Why does everything have to be about race? This is about history, and history should not be forgotten so that the same mistakes are not made again. Sons of confederate Veterans should be allowed to remember there heritage, just like we have black history month. The fact that the race card is being thrown at every corner is ridiculous. If anything the race pendulum has swung the other way.