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Truth about the Alt Right vs Minorities
Posted on 12/31/16 at 10:39 am
Posted on 12/31/16 at 10:39 am
Is the Alt Right really a classical movement. I see them in the same light with white supremacist. I know they strongly oppose that title, but their ideally seems to fit that perspective.
I think that nationalism does not equal racism. But if nationalism is the goal, why does have to include a mass separation of races. It is possible to be a minority and take pridea in a western nation. Actually there are minorities who are more patriotic than whites despite their ancestral subjugation. How do they explain this.
If there was a mass migration for single race States, wouldn't that be a regression, a destruction of one of the key virtues of the west (ironically) which is spread influence of these values for better civilizations.
PS, I don't really see the practicality of the movement since whites are still the dominant race and when western politics and businesses WILLINGLY let migration occur. It has the right to exist however.
I think that nationalism does not equal racism. But if nationalism is the goal, why does have to include a mass separation of races. It is possible to be a minority and take pridea in a western nation. Actually there are minorities who are more patriotic than whites despite their ancestral subjugation. How do they explain this.
If there was a mass migration for single race States, wouldn't that be a regression, a destruction of one of the key virtues of the west (ironically) which is spread influence of these values for better civilizations.
PS, I don't really see the practicality of the movement since whites are still the dominant race and when western politics and businesses WILLINGLY let migration occur. It has the right to exist however.
This post was edited on 12/31/16 at 10:41 am
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Posted on 12/31/16 at 10:40 am to volod
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But if nationalism is the goal, why does their have to be a mass separation of races.
Because history has proven time and time again that multiculturalism is what destroys societies.
Humans are tribal by nature. Forced integration just doesn't look in the long run
Posted on 12/31/16 at 10:43 am to volod
In light of your question, I would ask another.
Why according to the left must their be a two state solution in Israel?
If you decide to tackle this question please only do so in the light of your original post.
Why according to the left must their be a two state solution in Israel?
If you decide to tackle this question please only do so in the light of your original post.
This post was edited on 12/31/16 at 10:46 am
Posted on 12/31/16 at 10:46 am to volod
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I see them in the same light with white supremacist.
Thanks for sharing your ignorance?
Posted on 12/31/16 at 10:46 am to volod
Government discrimination based on race is what fosters and promotes racism in its citizens. Once government stops discriminating, and people are allowed to discriminate, the needs to discriminate will fade over time.
Just as Italians and the Irish eventually became integrated into American society, so shall every racial group if the government gets out of the way and stops discriminating. It is impossible to believe in special protections for minorities AND equal protection under the law for all. Those are mutually exclusive concepts.
We need to end de jure discrimination based on race like we should have done back in 1964.
Just as Italians and the Irish eventually became integrated into American society, so shall every racial group if the government gets out of the way and stops discriminating. It is impossible to believe in special protections for minorities AND equal protection under the law for all. Those are mutually exclusive concepts.
We need to end de jure discrimination based on race like we should have done back in 1964.
Posted on 12/31/16 at 10:47 am to volod
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Alt Right
Not real. Media created fake news.
Posted on 12/31/16 at 10:48 am to goldennugget
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Because history has proven time and time again that multiculturalism is what destroys societies.
238 years of American history says you are wrong.
Posted on 12/31/16 at 10:48 am to volod
quote:that's bc you are a useful idiot who can't think for yourself.
. I see them in the same light with white supremacist. I
Posted on 12/31/16 at 10:49 am to goldennugget
I see your point. However in all instances the rise of multiculturalism was a creation by the majority race.
Rome and the conscription of barbarians.
Macedonian influence from conquests into Persia and India.
Forced trade pacts due to European influence into East Asia and Hispanic city states (places that were very isolationist)
The Crusades (which became more unsuccessful with each subsequent attempt)
Rome and the conscription of barbarians.
Macedonian influence from conquests into Persia and India.
Forced trade pacts due to European influence into East Asia and Hispanic city states (places that were very isolationist)
The Crusades (which became more unsuccessful with each subsequent attempt)
Posted on 12/31/16 at 10:50 am to goldennugget
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Because history has proven time and time again that multiculturalism is what destroys societies.
Race =\= culture
Posted on 12/31/16 at 10:52 am to Big12fan
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238 years of American history says you are wrong.
I would argue that for the vast majority of those 238 there was a high level of assimilation by immigrants into western culture.
Again, race =\= culture
Posted on 12/31/16 at 10:52 am to volod
I love this. This is the exact reason dems are losing seats in every level of government. They cannot comprehend others disagreeing with their policy. So they smugly declare everyone that isn't a dem as a racist. It's a winning argument...keep it up.
By the way...as a minority....I find the left clearly more racist, in general, than the right.
By the way...as a minority....I find the left clearly more racist, in general, than the right.
This post was edited on 12/31/16 at 10:56 am
Posted on 12/31/16 at 10:55 am to volod
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But if nationalism is the goal, why does have to include a mass separation of races
Where is the evidence of this?
I'm so tired of liberals screeching racism just because people don't want to import criminals from other countries. We have enough criminals of our own to deal with.
Posted on 12/31/16 at 10:56 am to volod
We get it, you're a black college graduate from a predominantly black school. You're pissed because for years you have been studying to get a degree so you can live the "privileged" life. Now you have been in the work force for some while, trying to get a job that you think you deserve, and you're pissed because you can't find anything making over 50k a year. You're struggling. You're thinking about going into the military. You don't know what to do, but you think you should be "rich" by now and have your 100k job.
You may be white, but just picking up on the 4 or 5 desperate threads I've seen you post, you seem like a mad little black dude (or girl)
You may be white, but just picking up on the 4 or 5 desperate threads I've seen you post, you seem like a mad little black dude (or girl)
Posted on 12/31/16 at 10:59 am to airfernando
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a useful idiot who can't think for yourself.
If the Alt Right has there way, you do realize that many whites would also be affected. There is no such thing as a pure white race in the traditional sense.
What about mixed people where do they fall on the spectrum. And the other irony is that there is no basis as to why single race nations with Blacks or Hispanics could not work. Running a nation of people with similar identity is not the same as running a city with pre existing institutionalized racism in a western nation.
I'm not saying it would be better than the west, but it could thrive by finding it's own way like Mali, Ghana, and songhai of old. It could even take inspirations from Egyptians and modify it with western values.
Posted on 12/31/16 at 11:05 am to Rover Range
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You're struggling. You're thinking about going into the military. You don't know what to do, but you think you should be "rich" by now and have your 100k job.
Im not superficial enough to believe that I deserve more than people of a similar background as myself.
I don't hate the west. I love the west. I think western ideals are the best way to run a nation. I guess I just want to feel like I'm a part of that greatness, I want to feel that if I work hard enough I'll be a happy and productive citizen.
I want to feel that my identity of being black isn't an arbitrary restriction for success in life and forging my own destiny.
This post was edited on 12/31/16 at 11:06 am
Posted on 12/31/16 at 11:05 am to volod
Posted on 12/31/16 at 11:09 am to Vacherie Saint
I have no issue with deportation of criminals. However, from what have watched and read, Alt Right has the true desire to limit migration of races and maintain majority race States with quotas (this is for entire populations, nit just criminals).
Posted on 12/31/16 at 11:12 am to volod
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want to feel that my identity of being black isn't an arbitrary restriction for success in life and forging my own destiny
You shouldn't because it isn't
Posted on 12/31/16 at 11:13 am to volod
quote:And you've read this where?
Alt Right has the true desire to limit migration of races and maintain majority race States with quotas (this is for entire populations, nit just criminals).
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