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re: Truth about the Alt Right vs Minorities

Posted on 12/31/16 at 12:17 pm to
Posted by red racker
Independence, MO
Member since Dec 2016
265 posts
Posted on 12/31/16 at 12:17 pm to
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If there was a mass migration of Scandinavian women with blonde hair and big tits, Zach would not oppose


Those are becoming more rare by the decade.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 12/31/16 at 12:22 pm to
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If the Alt Right has there way, you do realize that many whites would also be affected. There is no such thing as a pure white race in the traditional sense.


Has nothing to do with race. It has to do with values. Shared values = shared success.

Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72233 posts
Posted on 12/31/16 at 12:27 pm to
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Has nothing to do with race. It has to do with values. Shared values = shared success.

This.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
One State Solution
Member since May 2012
55936 posts
Posted on 12/31/16 at 12:28 pm to
To all the naïve fools who think race has nothing to do with the alt-right, go take a look at r/altright.
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 12/31/16 at 12:29 pm to
I can understand where your coming from. The issue is that the blacks robbing stores are not the majority. BLM can be seen as a more extreme faction, and as with all factions it doesn't equally represent blacks from different walks of life.

I have never stood in the way of anyone trying to succeed. I have stolen nothing and earned everything. I've dealt with racism up close and personal but I never once blamed ALL WHITES for the problems I faced.

Alot of blacks, like the ones you're affiliated with, are hardworking people who never receive handouts. The ones asking for all the benefits are mostly the ones who are least productive (excluding working poor)

Minorities would never be here today if Europeans didn't want us here. No one brings up this single historical fact . Even Lincoln had wanted to deport Blacks back to Africa into their own nation or assimilation into African states, but the aristocracy at the time told him a resounding "NO".

If people chose not to interact with other races, then that's there perogative. But I know that as long as capitalist greed exist it will continue to seek more capital despite the desire to keep the the nation white.

It happened to Rome and every other great civilization since then. Multiculturalism may be "bad" but it's only as bad as corporate and governmental interest ALLOW it to be.

Blacks don't run the country my friend, whites do. Whatever white leaders decide will ultimately come to pass for better or worse.
This post was edited on 12/31/16 at 12:34 pm
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67228 posts
Posted on 12/31/16 at 12:33 pm to
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To all the naïve fools who think race has nothing to do with the alt-right, go take a look at r/altright.



You do realize that there are very few actual racists in the alt right, correct? Bonified racists are to the alt right what actual satanists are to death metal. It's mostly just used to make their parents and the establishment mad with almost zero sincerity behind it.

It's like sarcastically posting

or saying "Les Miles has lost control of _____" any time there's a bad call in a football game or a bizarre tragic story in the news. They don't really believe that Les Miles or the Jews are the cause of Alabama not being called for holding or for the latest creative use of an 18-wheeler to block traffic on I-10. It's a sarcastic joke. However, they know that liberal pantywaists will be triggered by it, and they find that funny. That's what it's all about, the lulz.

The actual racists, 1288r's from Stormfront, are hated and maligned because they are used to paint the entire movement as racist despite BLM not being used to paint the entire DNC as anti-police.
This post was edited on 12/31/16 at 12:43 pm
Posted by red racker
Independence, MO
Member since Dec 2016
265 posts
Posted on 12/31/16 at 12:39 pm to
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To all the naïve fools who think race has nothing to do with the alt-right, go take a look at r/altright.


This!

It is good to know that the conservative movement has shifted toward the Midwest and Great Lakes, so the social stigma attached to the Deep South and the Evangelical cult will no longer impact elections. The US has to have the two party system and a red state-blue state divide for checks and balances, and demographics will transition the southwest and southeastern states into blue states, as the Midwest swings back into the red. I highly doubt states with demographics like Mississippi and Louisiana can suppress minority voters and continue to disenfranchise the true majority in the region, so the change is inevitable.

Moreover, the Midwest has more German, Scandinavian and Slavic peoples, which is compatible with what is taking place in Germany and the EU today involving Russia and the muslim problem that the Bush administration initiated by destabilizing the Mideast to create a mass migration problem that is taking its toll on Europe right now. Simply put, conservatives outside of the south do not have compatibility with the cult-like conservatism of the south that nearly ruined the GOP before the New Yorker Trump came along and flipped many states in the upper Midwest.

The Great Lakes down to central and northern TX will be the GOP stronghold, and hopefully we can work westward and gain more states within the interior West. The Southern Baptists and Evangelicals, along with the regional identity of the southeastern states that nobody else identifies with, was responsible for flipping the map.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 12/31/16 at 12:42 pm to
Alter.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
One State Solution
Member since May 2012
55936 posts
Posted on 12/31/16 at 12:45 pm to
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You do realize that there are very few actual racists in the alt right, correct?
depends how you define racist. Is Richard Spencer racist?
Posted by red racker
Independence, MO
Member since Dec 2016
265 posts
Posted on 12/31/16 at 12:48 pm to
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Is Richard Spencer racist?


I'm pretty sure Richard Spencer is a closet homosexual. That guy sounds about as beta as a person can gets.
Posted by Pinecone Repair
Burminham
Member since Nov 2013
7156 posts
Posted on 12/31/16 at 12:53 pm to
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238 years of American history says you are wrong.


For much of that time immigrants assimilated. We formed a unique country made up of individuals who maintained their ancestral pride while also celebrating their American identity and values. We shared re same basic ideas/beliefs. It was understood that when you came to America you worked to become an American. You didn't want the shitty parts of the country you left to be replicated.

That doesn't seem to be the case anymore.
This post was edited on 12/31/16 at 12:54 pm
Posted by red racker
Independence, MO
Member since Dec 2016
265 posts
Posted on 12/31/16 at 12:58 pm to
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That doesn't seem to be the case anymore


Of course not. Most of the immigration we have in the US today is from Mexico and Central America, and that constituency honestly believes it is entitled to the American Southwest because of its discontent with the Treaty of Hidalgo.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67228 posts
Posted on 12/31/16 at 1:00 pm to
A racist is someone who believes that race determines character and skill of individual members of that race, that these indicative character traits and skills allow races as a whole to be compared to where one race can be determined, via these metrics, to be superior to another, and they act and make decisions based on said belief.

I think too often issues with a culture are misapplied to a race. Race is nothing more than a genetic code, physical attributes. Culture is behavior which is learned. People who "hate" a culture due to its learned behavior norms exhibited by adherents to said culture are often lumped in with those who hate for arbitrary reasons like skin pigmentation. Someone who hates based on culture can be called other things like xenophobic or nativist if said hated culture is one belonging to foreign groups, but that doesn't make it racist.

I understand that this is a very vague definition, but I think it's a pretty good synopsis.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42582 posts
Posted on 12/31/16 at 1:00 pm to
Do you have actually facts that back your opinion, or are you making things up based on CNN?
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67228 posts
Posted on 12/31/16 at 1:17 pm to
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Blacks don't run the country my friend, whites do.


1. How is this true? Many local governments are run by blacks. A considerable minority of Congressmen and Senators, nearly a plurality, are black and hispanic. The president for the past 8 years is black. There are black police chiefs, sheriffs, judges, CEOs, teachers, professors, ect. It's not the 1960's anymore. Blacks actually have a larger share of seats in legislatures than their percentage of the population.

2. How does this matter?

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The issue is that the blacks robbing stores are not the majority.


True. The issue is that the minority of young African American males committing crimes is a much much much larger percentage of the overall young African American male population than in other demographic groups, so much so that around half of the violent crime is committed by African Americans despite them only accounting for roughly 10-12% of the overall population.

While it is true that that group is still a minority, it's a much larger minority in black populations than in other populations.

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Alot of blacks, like the ones you're affiliated with, are hardworking people who never receive handouts. The ones asking for all the benefits are mostly the ones who are least productive


This is the same case in all races. Once again, the problem is that this group simply makes up a larger share of the African American community than it does in other racial or ethnic communities.

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Minorities would never be here today if Europeans didn't want us here. No one brings up this single historical fact . Even Lincoln had wanted to deport Blacks back to Africa into their own nation or assimilation into African states, but the aristocracy at the time told him a resounding "NO".


A very very very good point. I don't think the issue is that the alt right doesn't want those who are already here and have been here for generations to leave, I think it's that they don't want the federal government making decisions regarding whom they are allowed to associate with. The issue is an abridgment of the freedom of association, the right to do with one's own property as they wish, and a violation of the principles of equal protection of the law for all. The government criminalizes some forms of discrimination but permits, or even encourages, others. Either it's all ok, or none of it is, just like with speech. Any middle ground will inevitably be adjudicated in an unequal manner that will eventually result in the government using it as a tool to silence or punish political dissent.

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If people chose not to interact with other races, then that's there perogative. But I know that as long as capitalist greed exist it will continue to seek more capital despite the desire to keep the the nation white.


Exactly. The free market should be the punisher of racism and segregation, not some lazy corrupt government stooge. The reaction on social media to even the slightest discrimination, even if legal, will be enough to discourage most, and the reaction by consumers will result in the vast majority of the few brave souls who choose to discriminate failing in their businesses.

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Multiculturalism may be "bad" but it's only as bad as corporate and governmental interest ALLOW it to be.


Another fantastic observation. The issue is that right now, the government is using its resources to prioritize the cultures of minority groups over that of the majority. It is denigrating its native values and replacing them against the will of much of its citizenry. In the meantime, the corporate world is using "multiculturalism" as a moral shield to hide what they are really doing: abusing immigration and fair wage laws to hire cheaper immigrant labor to save money at the expense of citizen workers. They are trying to create a moral justification smokescreen for them laying off Americans and replacing them with practical slave labor because the company has almost absolute power over whether that immigrant and their family can stay in the country, almost like the old factory towns of the gilded age, where the company owned the housing and the store and the poor immigrants were essentially slaves to the company.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
424431 posts
Posted on 12/31/16 at 1:45 pm to
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Sargon of Akkad.

show me where Sargon said he wants blacks gone from the West
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
424431 posts
Posted on 12/31/16 at 1:47 pm to
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The North American continent was stolen via genocide of indigenous peoples

whoa

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
262217 posts
Posted on 12/31/16 at 1:47 pm to
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Blacks don't run the country my friend, whites do.


Are you saying there are inherent differences between black and white, or is it just a skin color?
Posted by bamafan1001
Member since Jun 2011
15783 posts
Posted on 12/31/16 at 1:49 pm to
Reasonable response. I believe everything you are saying about yourself and honestly you'd probably be a dude Id drink and watch football with.

However, you are probably an exception

BLM is unfortunately very legitimate. Campuses across the country, pro athletes, celebrities, even the President have legitimized it. Normal black people aren't shouting down BLM, they are joining in.

BLM is a hate group and uses terrorism and thuggery to broadcast their agenda.

The President talked down middle America, DJT won over those people because he talked them up.

My mom has been buying Christmas presents for poor black kids who attended the school she teaches at for years. She has never gotten a thank you card, but has been called a racist many times. She is not alone
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
424431 posts
Posted on 12/31/16 at 1:49 pm to
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Of course not. Most of the immigration we have in the US today is from Mexico and Central America, and that constituency honestly believes it is entitled to the American Southwest because of its discontent with the Treaty of Hidalgo.

and that belief is fricking stupid, don't you agree?
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