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re: Trump wants to cancel order for new Air Force One. Why?

Posted on 12/6/16 at 8:59 am to
Posted by 4Ghost
Member since Sep 2016
8518 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 8:59 am to
Obama and his clan added 10 years on them with his worldwide apology tour and family vacations at every turn of the corner.
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
29166 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 8:59 am to
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You think so? Want to bet that number comes down quite a bit?



$1.65 billion for 3 fully-outfitted 747-8's isn't a very high cost.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73441 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 8:59 am to
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you'd think a 747 could be managed to get another 10 years or so.
Those two 747s are hours and cycles wise new aircraft compared to 747s in the commercial fleet.
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 9:00 am to
The F35 is like a billion each right? AF1 probabaly has much more technology.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73441 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 9:00 am to
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3 fully-outfitted 747-8's
3 or 2?
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
Top secret lab
Member since Feb 2004
52833 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 9:00 am to
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What on God's green cock could be put on an airplane to make it cost $4 Billion?


4 Billion...and it is FIXED WING!!!


Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35398 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 9:01 am to
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In a recent interview, Buckley said the final cost for the presidential version is "difficult to say at this point because we know we have challenges with affordability." The Air Force was working with Boeing to reduce requirements and costs and a revised estimate was expected next spring or later when an analysis is completed, he said.

So Trump will try to take credit for pencil sharpening that is already happening. But this board will think his tweet did the trick.
Posted by EvrybodysAllAmerican
Member since Apr 2013
11158 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 9:01 am to
Stuff like this makes me think we really could balance the budget if anyone actually cared to.
Posted by Jbird
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Member since Oct 2012
73441 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 9:02 am to
Boeing and USAF cutting costs that's a laugh, I bet you believed Obama when he said he wouldn't cum in your mouth.
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
45760 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 9:02 am to
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It's a boeing 747-200. Boeing doesn't produce those anymore, parts are getting harder and harder to come by and more expensive
bullshite. Parts graveyards for these are full of these planes all over the world.

Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54210 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 9:03 am to
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$1.65 billion for 3 fully-outfitted 747-8's isn't a very high cost.


You're putting a lot of stock into a WH report. It says "possible" three planes. Just how can a third plane not increase the price as reported for just two planes? I'm pretty sure Boeing doesn't have a "buy two get one free" arrangement with the government.
Posted by cokebottleag
I’m a Santos Republican
Member since Aug 2011
24028 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 9:05 am to
Lol

Bunch of people in here talking like they know anything about aircraft maintenance. Every single one of those moving parts on that aircraft has a specific shelflife in hours. Not years, flying hours. When those parts including the engines, hit their maximum lifetime, they are replaced. Whether they are broken or not. I guarantee you there isn't a single part on either of those planes that is original to the aircraft. And five times the typical cost for a commercial airliner? You have to be fricking me. Absolutely that is an over inflated cost.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73441 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 9:09 am to
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I guarantee you there isn't a single part on either of those planes that is original to the aircraft.
Tell me all about the hours on those two aircraft.

What aviation maintenance did you do BTW?
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
21888 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 9:10 am to
You can buy 1/3 of an aircraft carrier for this price with its planes included.

Latest Aircraft carrier price tag is 13.5 Billion
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
65708 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 9:11 am to
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Obama and his clan added 10 years on them with his worldwide apology tour and family vacations at every turn of the corner.


Oh good grief. Obama cancelled Marine One orders 7 years ago due to price issues. You guys getting hard sitting in the dark corner chair looking at Trump frick is disturbing.
Posted by Pax Regis
Alabama
Member since Sep 2007
12934 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 9:12 am to
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I'm all for fiscal responsibility but this is just idiotic and some of the dumbest shite he's ever said but he has no filter so what's new.


Feel free to set up a GoFundMe account to buy the President a new plane and contribute all you and your friends would like.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73441 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 9:12 am to
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Obama cancelled Marine One orders 7 years ago due to price issues
IIRC it was because of the backlash over the foreign manufacturer, not money.
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
48918 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 9:12 am to
Melt!!!
Posted by AUbused
Member since Dec 2013
7771 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 9:14 am to
Come ON dude. I think Trump is a buffoon, but if you can't get on board with a mentality that stops corporate welfare via government contract come ON.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 9:15 am to
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What's the burn rate for both variations?


The new genx engines shits all over the CF6. They add another thousand miles to the trip so for AF1 that's about 7500 instead of 6500.

The genx engines on the Dreamliner has basically opened new routes to the airline industry and killed the A380 and 747 as well.
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