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re: Transgender Navy Seal calls out Trump

Posted on 7/26/17 at 2:52 pm to
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
33860 posts
Posted on 7/26/17 at 2:52 pm to
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Fine. If you choose to believe she/he was a completely mentally healthy person before the service and then broke down to a point to changing her gender, that is on you.


You've never met a single person that saw combat? It affects all of them mentally to some degree and in some cases it completely fricks up their head.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
35474 posts
Posted on 7/26/17 at 2:53 pm to
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Fine. If you choose to believe she/he was a completely mentally healthy person before the service and then broke down to a point to changing her gender, that is on you.

I never stated my opinion on the matter. I only said his own assertions are hardly proof of anything, as you claimed.
Posted by ChewyDante
Member since Jan 2007
16916 posts
Posted on 7/26/17 at 2:53 pm to
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Tell me to my face I’m not worthy of serving


This is like a former military member with a post service mental or physical disorder getting offended because the military doesn't accept people with preexisting mental or physical disorders. This person's lack of ability to comprehend that is just further evidence of their ongoing disorder.
This post was edited on 7/26/17 at 2:54 pm
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83529 posts
Posted on 7/26/17 at 2:53 pm to
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Being forced to hide his mental illness most likely contributed to his ability to serve.


when goes against this statement

quote:

Their personal "battles" will always surface.
Posted by Knight of Old
New Hampshire
Member since Jul 2007
10967 posts
Posted on 7/26/17 at 2:54 pm to
Dude got a sex change after his service on his own dime...why the frick do I care about that?...
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89488 posts
Posted on 7/26/17 at 2:55 pm to
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They make less than $60k/yr.


Beck retired at E-8 - and today that would be about $60k. But with housing and other allowances, you're talking about closer to $80k for senior enlisted. Plus he gets over $30k/yr now to sit on a$$. For the rest of his life.

Survival is the key to the benefits program, baws.
Posted by Andychapman13
Member since Jun 2016
2728 posts
Posted on 7/26/17 at 2:55 pm to
How long is gonna be before yall realize when you parade these freak shows out in public to criticize us it automatically makes us look better?!?!
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
79626 posts
Posted on 7/26/17 at 2:55 pm to
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You mean the evangelical orgs that got him elected. Not the Generals that he said he was smarter than.


No. It was the generals.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68063 posts
Posted on 7/26/17 at 2:57 pm to
So he's implying that he would hit the president. Secret Service needs to pay him a visit.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146577 posts
Posted on 7/26/17 at 2:57 pm to
I also recall reading that Kristin may get into politics. So she is politiking.
Posted by Contra
Member since Oct 2016
7521 posts
Posted on 7/26/17 at 2:59 pm to
That first pic he was clearly already a transgendered person while serving and receiving the "treatment".

But for real, if you have to receive any type of long term medical treatment (like transgender since they mutilate themselves and require drugs be pumped into them) and are on medications, then the military has always not allowed these people in.

Why should transgendered people get preferential treatment over someone who may be on medications and have a medical condition that requires long term attention?
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 7/26/17 at 3:00 pm to
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I choose to believe the more logical scenario in which he/she had deep mental/security issues before, during and after service.


Thats nice.

Using your preference for logic, do you think a man, who thinks he is a woman and acts out to the extent of physical mutilation, is mentally ill?
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83529 posts
Posted on 7/26/17 at 3:02 pm to
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Using your preference for logic, do you think a man, who thinks he is a woman and acts out to the extent of physical mutilation, is mentally ill?


Yes.

I've stated as such multiple times.

Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35374 posts
Posted on 7/26/17 at 3:03 pm to
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I have nothing but respect for this hero. But it wasn't my decision, it was Trumps, along with the advice from his top generals



That is the part I question. The Pentagon was caught completely off guard this morning. Reminds me of travel ban V1.0.
Posted by La Place Mike
West Florida Republic
Member since Jan 2004
28794 posts
Posted on 7/26/17 at 3:03 pm to
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Tell me to my face I’m not worthy of serving


Not very lady like lanquage.
Posted by Machine
Earth
Member since May 2011
6001 posts
Posted on 7/26/17 at 3:06 pm to
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I know you alphas in here love some SEALS
except when they stand for things that scare them
This post was edited on 7/26/17 at 3:07 pm
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48280 posts
Posted on 7/26/17 at 3:08 pm to
This SEAL is entitled to express an opinion.

That said, the BEST INTERESTS OF THE SERVICE are paramount on this and all other issues. The Commander in Chief has determined that it is in the best interests of the Service to exclude Transgendered individuals, regardless of their phase of transition.

This policy will change the moment that the eGOP and Dems can unseat Trump.
Posted by Lsuchs
Member since Apr 2013
8073 posts
Posted on 7/26/17 at 3:09 pm to
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All he had to say we are not paying for the surgery but you can stay in.


I'm not 100% familiar with transgender operations but even if you had the surgery before dont you require routine hormone therapy? That would require not just funding treatment but training and equipping forward deployed personnel and facilities.

And if you have yet to have any operation or treatment but just identify as something other than what you are you are just lying. Why confuse doctors and other support staff with a "whatever the frick I want" option for gender. Your anatomy is your anatomy, it's falsifying a government document to identify as something else.

A naval destroyer has no medical officer, it has an enlisted corpsman (medic) with a closest size room and supplies. They are not equipped or trained to handle complications of hormone treatments. And if a person is only capable of certain "cush " military gigs why the frick are you even in the military?

If you want free anatomy alteration for citizens try and pass a bill making that it's own social program. Don't bog down the military to try and make it a social welfare program and take away resources from military members suffering from actual military related injuries or stress.
This post was edited on 7/26/17 at 3:18 pm
Posted by AU_Right
Member since Oct 2016
3048 posts
Posted on 7/26/17 at 3:10 pm to
quote:

Transgender Navy Seal calls out Trump

Neat.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118691 posts
Posted on 7/26/17 at 3:10 pm to


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