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re: Transgender Navy Seal calls out Trump
Posted on 7/26/17 at 2:39 pm to HubbaBubba
Posted on 7/26/17 at 2:39 pm to HubbaBubba
Suck cock and put on a wig and all transgressions are forgotten
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Posted on 7/26/17 at 2:41 pm to LSUcjb318
Posted on 7/26/17 at 2:42 pm to Salmon
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if anything, she/he is proof that those with certain mental illnesses/defects still have the mental aptitude to serve
It's not proof because we have no idea if he/she had the mental illness before service.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 2:43 pm to LSUcjb318
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Transgender Navy Seal calls out Trump
And in doing so, provides an example of why they should be banned. Their personal "battles" will always surface. That trait is exactly what is not needed in a fighting force that demands cohesion, unity of purpose, and trust.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 2:44 pm to northshorebamaman
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It's not proof because we have no idea if he/she had the mental illness before service.
she claims otherwise
Posted on 7/26/17 at 2:44 pm to L.A.
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Strawman. Trump didn't say anything about the worthiness of the transgenders. He said having them in the military is too expensive and an all around pain in the arse
All he had to say was we are not paying for the surgery but you can stay in.
This post was edited on 7/27/17 at 9:11 am
Posted on 7/26/17 at 2:44 pm to LSUcjb318
What this SEAL is standing for is SELF over SERVICE. It is supposed to be the other way around.
To put it another way, military service not a right, just as being a usps employee is not a right of every citizen.
It just so happens that military service has requirements that conflict with allowing many in the us population from serving.
To put it another way, military service not a right, just as being a usps employee is not a right of every citizen.
It just so happens that military service has requirements that conflict with allowing many in the us population from serving.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 2:44 pm to Salmon
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she claims otherwise
Which is not proof.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 2:44 pm to Dale51
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Their personal "battles" will always surface. That trait is exactly what is not needed in a fighting force that demands cohesion, unity of purpose, and trust.
except, you know, in this case they didn't, which completely goes against your point
This post was edited on 7/26/17 at 2:45 pm
Posted on 7/26/17 at 2:45 pm to northshorebamaman
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Which is not proof.
It's more proof than biased speculation.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 2:47 pm to Salmon
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It's more proof than biased speculation.
I disagree. It would damage her argument to claim otherwise. That hardly makes her unbiased.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 2:49 pm to LSUcjb318
I love when people make snarky threads/comments when they don't even understand the concept of what they're talking about. 
Posted on 7/26/17 at 2:49 pm to Dale51
quote:/thread
And in doing so, provides an example of why they should be banned. Their personal "battles" will always surface. That trait is exactly what is not needed in a fighting force that demands cohesion, unity of purpose, and trust.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 2:50 pm to Salmon
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she claims otherwise
I have the hardest time getting crazy people to admit they're crazy....especially my wife, it just makes her crazier.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 2:50 pm to northshorebamaman
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I disagree. It would damage her argument to claim otherwise. That hardly makes her unbiased.
Fine. If you choose to believe she/he was a completely mentally healthy person before the service and then broke down to a point to changing her gender, that is on you.
I choose to believe the more logical scenario in which he/she had deep mental/security issues before, during and after service.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 2:50 pm to LSUcjb318
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Tell me to my face I’m not worthy of serving
You were worthy, when you didn't falsify a government document and mark female at the recruiting office.
You were a male and marked male, no matter what you identify as post service.
While in the teams you had a full beard, high test and low estrogen levels, and a wife who you put your penis in and impregnated. You were not transgender, you were a full on fricking man.
Now if you want to join the military as a social program for free anatomy alteration we don't need you. There are plenty of vaginaless dudes and balless girls we can sign up for much cheaper and can actually serve for their entire service rather than "transition."
This post was edited on 7/26/17 at 2:53 pm
Posted on 7/26/17 at 2:51 pm to BlackHelicopterPilot
quote:If I were her I would be worrying about my highest ranking Naval Commander calling her/him in and losing his/her retirement pay for threatening POTUS. His/Her military bearing should teach him/her, she could have worded it way differently with more respect to CIC and made it, non-threatening.
Tell me to my face I’m not worthy of serving
Something tells me she didn't say this...But DU will be orgasmic for days.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 2:51 pm to LSUcjb318
When did He become a She?
never mind, I see now.
Worthless argument from Him Her whatever.
never mind, I see now.
Worthless argument from Him Her whatever.
This post was edited on 7/26/17 at 2:56 pm
Posted on 7/26/17 at 2:52 pm to Salmon
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except, you know, in this case they didn't, which completely goes against your point
Yeah...no.
Was he a man or a "woman" when he served? Being forced to hide his mental illness most likely contributed to his ability to serve.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 2:52 pm to Salmon
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she/he is proof that those with certain mental illnesses/defects still have the mental aptitude to serve
Really? The military isn't a come one, come all organization. There are parameters that you must fit in so as to optimize warfighting and be efficient.
How does accepting individuals with massive counseling needs and a propensity for self harm (the military has a hard enough time tackling the suicide issue as is) further combat effectiveness?
We should not as taxpayers seek to promote an inefficient DoD. It's purpose is to provide tools in support of foreign policy. Does accepting transgender feeling individuals further that? Are the tiny number of trans types worth it for DoD? Should paralyzed individuals or those with chronic, non-communicable disease be allowed to join?
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