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The Second Amendment Really Is Poorly Written...

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A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.


The problem is with the well regulated militia part. It can reasonably be argued that a well regulated militia, according to the amendment, is the context in which "the people's right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed". It leads to a case for banning arms with impunity, so long as the banning doesn't interfere with the militia.

A better writing would have been:

"A well defended and armed populace being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

Agree or disagree?


goldenbadger08
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Agree.

But the again, was it intentionally written this way?



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Buddy Garrity
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the writers just wanted to frick with us


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Five0
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That little comma really is a big deal.


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SundayFunday
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They probably figured it wasn't very complicated and there was enough common sense out there to understand it.



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Regulated doesn't mean regulation in today's context.


FT
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They probably figured it wasn't very complicated and there was enough common sense out there to understand it.


That's totally not how any of the rest of the constitution is written.


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They probably figured it wasn't very complicated and there was enough common sense out there to understand it.


That's totally not how any of the rest of the constitution is written.



The Constitution, despite what some believe, really does need to be interpreted sometimes depending upon the facts.


FT
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The Constitution, despite what some believe, really does need to be interpreted sometimes depending upon the facts.
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The Constitution, despite what some believe, really does need to be interpreted sometimes depending upon the facts.
I agree.


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MoreOrLes
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How the frick would a militia of free citizens form if their weapons were previously confiscated.

SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED

is very clear


FT
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The militia could buy guns on behalf of it's members. It's not clear.


MoreOrLes
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And your aunt COULD grow balls and be your uncle

ITS Very clear

militias without weapons in your premise are not a militia at all

This post was edited on 3/31 at 10:50 pm


TN Bhoy
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re: The Second Amendment Really Is Poorly Written...
Or English since the Eighteenth Century has taken a marked downturn.


SlowFlowPro
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eh

language evolves. always has. always will


FT
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So... An organization buying the necessary tools for it's purpose is the same as a woman sprouting balls?

Ok. No more replying to you.


Meauxjeaux
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The militia could buy guns on behalf of it's members. It's not clear.


Hey, if Uncle Sam, or anyone else for that matter, wants to buy guns for me to KEEP and BEAR, I'm all for it!


RockyMtnTigerWDE
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ITS Very clear

militias without weapons in your premise are not a militia at all


Agree. Anyone suggesting it is poorly written are reaching far so as to find reason to alter it to meet heir agenda.


TN Bhoy
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language evolves. always has. always will




Yes, but that doesn't mean that the language has "evolved" into a better form or that those who read the current form can read the earlier form.

See Cicero.


FT
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Hey, if Uncle Sam, or anyone else for that matter, wants to buy guns for me to KEEP and BEAR, I'm all for it!

The militia would never be part of the government. That's the entire point of its existence.


MoreOrLes
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I hope you don't.

Because if you want to argue that The right for people to keep and bear arms SHALL not be infringed....is unclear..your next statement will most likely be even more ignorant.


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