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re: So special counsel investigating Trump for obstruction of justice per Fox news.

Posted on 6/14/17 at 6:41 pm to
Posted by Pax Regis
Alabama
Member since Sep 2007
12947 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 6:41 pm to
What amazing timing. Just in time to deflect from domestic democrat terrorists.
This post was edited on 6/14/17 at 7:06 pm
Posted by SquirrelyBama
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 6/14/17 at 6:43 pm to
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Posted by crescentcity
Member since Feb 2015
1311 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 6:46 pm to
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What Comey did in the Clinton server investigation should have had him died and charged on the spot


That's weird. Senator Jeff Sessions called Comey's actions brave and patriotic.

And Sessions is now Attorney General.
Posted by VOLhalla
Knoxville
Member since Feb 2011
4464 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 6:47 pm to
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After Comey specifically said Trump didn't obstruct anything this story comes out today. Not convenient or anything.


Wut?

Comey testified that he interpreted Trump's statements as an order to end a federal investigation into Flynn. That's obstruction territory
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
28719 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 6:47 pm to
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How could someone so well recieved and loved have screwed it all up so much


Massive ego and stunning incompetence would be my guess.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
99207 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 6:47 pm to
Trump should come out and say he has no problem with the SC and he needs to go where the evidence takes him, but if the leaks don't stop, he will fire him.
Posted by VOLhalla
Knoxville
Member since Feb 2011
4464 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 6:49 pm to
The SP was created to investigate a) Russia/collusion and b) Mike Flynn. This obstruction investigation almost certainly stems from Trump trying to get Comey to shut down the Flynn investigation.
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 6:51 pm to
You cock suckers have been absent all day until the special counsel announces this.


Timing is everything.


frick you and your murderous party. Trying to kill elected officials because you lost an election.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 6:51 pm to
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The SP was created to investigate a) Russia/collusion and b) Mike Flynn. This obstruction investigation almost certainly stems from Trump trying to get Comey to shut down the Flynn investigation.




It almost certainly stems from bullshite so that the dems can still say "under investigation".
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
99207 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 6:52 pm to
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Comey testified that he interpreted Trump's statements as an order to end a federal investigation into Flynn. That's obstruction territory 


He also said that it was within the President's authority to issue such an order. So, if it was within his authority and Coney saw it as an order, why didn't he follow that order? And, why didn't he report it?

Simple, because it wasn't an order and Comey lied.
Posted by LSUnation78
Northshore
Member since Aug 2012
12089 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 6:54 pm to
No troll, serious question. Which i know doesnt go over well here, but i'll try anyway.

My understanding if executive authority is that directing the fbi on investigations to pursue is completely withing the presidents rights. Just as he could have preemptively pardoned Flynn and ended the need for any investigation to flynn himself right there.

I also understand that there are general guidelines of decorum they usually follow, under which the president directly telling comey was not kosher. Typically the AG or assistant AG would have those convos with FBI director.

So while not entirely kosher, its not a criminal act. Am i missing a peice of legalesse info somewhere? Real talk.
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
35013 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 6:55 pm to
Trump's next Order should be to AG Sessions; to convene a Grand Jury to investigate Comey's handling of the Hillary/Lynch Obstruction of Justice. The best defense is a good offense.
Posted by BoomBoomBoom
Member since Oct 2013
939 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 6:56 pm to
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Is that within his scope?
quote:

Yes
No
Posted by VOLhalla
Knoxville
Member since Feb 2011
4464 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 6:56 pm to
Sorry sweetheart, I was busy at work today. Based on your post count maybe you should try a little harder at your job
Posted by Big Chipper
Charlotte, NC
Member since Sep 2008
2779 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 6:58 pm to
Wish I had more upvotes to give...
Posted by golfntiger32
Ohio
Member since Oct 2013
12486 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 6:59 pm to
Let me explain this clearly, for the last damn time, the Prez can tell the DOJ/FBI who to investigate or not investigate. If Trump told Comey to let this thing go, but continued to fund and let Comey continue with the investigation that is not obstruction. The fact that Mueller or his team of Dem Lawyers leaked this to the WAPO is no coincidence especially after Sessions testimony yesterday.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35474 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 6:59 pm to
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So, if it was within his authority and Coney saw it as an order, why didn't he follow that order? And, why didn't he report it?
Because the technically legal order would result in an unlawful act.

Because there was just one instance that could not be corroborated.
Posted by bonhoeffer45
Member since Jul 2016
4367 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 7:00 pm to
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The swamp hatched this plan up when Trump drained one of their biggest frogs.





I guess this thread explains a lot about how so many around here buy into things like Seth Rich so quickly.

Everything just has to be a grand conspiracy that victimizes Trump or their team and shifts blame outward.

No possibility that a highly respected Republican, hired by a Trump appointee, with a decade of experience, has a justifiable reason to investigate this. It just has to be the shadowy swamp monster trying to sully our pure of heart president.
Posted by CheniereTiger108
Member since Jul 2014
1610 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 7:01 pm to
So we're opening an investigation based on a disgruntled fired employee's FEELINGS now?!

Comey is an attorney and former prosecutor- he knows what obstruction is. If it was obstruction, he would've definitively said it was. Instead, he said he couldn't say.

And Ironically enough, he didn't say that he interpreted Lynch's statements as an order...Or that her email was obstruction of justice, but they most certainly were. Oh yeah and he actually FOLLOWED her order.
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 7:02 pm to
There's also nothing new in the story, just repackaged information from last week.
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