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re: Single payer system
Posted on 3/7/17 at 10:11 am to MontyFranklyn
Posted on 3/7/17 at 10:11 am to MontyFranklyn
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legalize marijuana
You know that shite won't fly with this administration.
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Posted on 3/7/17 at 10:11 am to MontyFranklyn
quote:Sure! Single payer should work well for groceries, cars, houses, cellphones, etc.
couldn't we fund a single payer system
Here's how it works.
We pay taxes to the government. The government randomly decides what it will pay for groceries, cars, houses, cellphones, etc.. Then we walk into the stores, or car lots, or homesites and get them for "free".
Posted on 3/7/17 at 10:11 am to MontyFranklyn
we already spend $1,000,000,000,000 more then the revenue we take in. We need to cut, not shift spending.
Also, as stated elsewhere, we do not want a VA style system in this country....
Also, as stated elsewhere, we do not want a VA style system in this country....
Posted on 3/7/17 at 10:11 am to MontyFranklyn
Come on man,
You know healthcare is all about the profit. Stop thinking about peasants snowflake.
Posted on 3/7/17 at 10:12 am to rocket31
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$24k is a little high
But yes it is needed..
It's coming sooner or later anyways
...and politicians will continue to increase it every election to buy votes.
UBI is a fricking train wreck waiting to happen.
Posted on 3/7/17 at 10:12 am to MontyFranklyn
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We could also do something like, i don't know, legalize marijuana and tax it. That tax revenue would go a long, long way.
Sure and allow people to sell it and make money. If there is so much tax revenue that you can finance single payer then this industry could support enough people that we could all pay for our own healthcare.
Posted on 3/7/17 at 10:13 am to LSUcjb318
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You know healthcare is all about the profit.
So?
Posted on 3/7/17 at 10:14 am to tigeraddict
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Also, as stated elsewhere, we do not want a VA style system in this country....
I would love to put all the "MUH SINGLEPAYERZ" folks on military or VA healthcare for a year.
That idea would die REAL goddamn quick.
Posted on 3/7/17 at 10:14 am to LSUcjb318
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You know healthcare is all about the profit.
What percentage of an average healthcare premium is targeting for profit?
10%? 15%? What do you think it is?
Posted on 3/7/17 at 10:19 am to roadGator
quote:not sure, but being that the bigger, most available companies are public traded companies I'm sure they are priced to make a profit
What percentage of an average healthcare premium is targeting for profit?
10%? 15%? What do you think it is?
Posted on 3/7/17 at 10:21 am to MontyFranklyn
Of course they have a profit target. Even the not-for-profit companies have to profit.
The government will have to run healthcare at a profit or premiums will continue to go up.
I don't understand why so many people can't see this.
Profit is not the target you should be aiming for.
The government will have to run healthcare at a profit or premiums will continue to go up.
I don't understand why so many people can't see this.
Profit is not the target you should be aiming for.
This post was edited on 3/7/17 at 10:29 am
Posted on 3/7/17 at 10:23 am to Jake88
No one blinked an eye when the unfunded public/private graft ready $1 Trillion infrastructure plan was announced.
There are any number of ways to finance Single Payer...sell the millions of acres west of the Rockies owned by the Federal Govt, tax levy's on Big Pharma which already makes absurd profits, an excise on Oil and Gas to be exported overseas, the legalization and heavy use tax on Marijuana, the reduction of Foreign Aid, etc....
There are any number of ways to finance Single Payer...sell the millions of acres west of the Rockies owned by the Federal Govt, tax levy's on Big Pharma which already makes absurd profits, an excise on Oil and Gas to be exported overseas, the legalization and heavy use tax on Marijuana, the reduction of Foreign Aid, etc....
This post was edited on 3/7/17 at 10:28 am
Posted on 3/7/17 at 10:23 am to Jake88
When those insurance companies merge you will be f*#cked.
Either the Gov tells the companies how much they can f*#ck you or they charge you whatever they want.
Life for profit.
Posted on 3/7/17 at 10:24 am to LSUcjb318
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Either the Gov tells the companies how much they can f*#ck you or they charge you whatever they want. Life for profit.
Low information
Posted on 3/7/17 at 10:27 am to LSUcjb318
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When those insurance companies merge you will be f*#cked
When is that?
quote:
Either the Gov tells the companies how much they can f*#ck you or they charge you whatever they want
Interestingly, since obamacare came into existence my premiums have increased at a rapid rate not seen prior. So, frick govt involvement.
Posted on 3/7/17 at 10:27 am to roadGator
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Low information
Well thought out response. I have changed my position.
This post was edited on 3/7/17 at 10:29 am
Posted on 3/7/17 at 10:28 am to LSUcjb318
You can't change your position because of your ignorance.
Posted on 3/7/17 at 10:30 am to roadGator
quote:
Of course they have a profit target. Even the not-for-profit companies have to profit.
The government will have to run healthcare at a profit or premiums will continue to go up.
I don't understand why so many people can see this.
Profit is not the target you should be aiming for.
No. This isn't like education funding for college where so many people were wasting millions of dollars having a good time, making demand and pricing for higher education artificially rise. This will encourage more providers to enter the market. Also, we need to remove the damn borders that allow the shitty pricing in the first place.
This post was edited on 3/7/17 at 10:31 am
Posted on 3/7/17 at 10:31 am to LSUcjb318
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Either the Gov tells the companies how much they can f*#ck you or they charge you whatever they want.
Why do you think this is binary?
Posted on 3/7/17 at 10:32 am to OchoDedos
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No one blinked an eye when the unfunded public/private graft ready $1 Trillion infrastructure plan was announced.
Uh, quite a few of us blinked.
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There are any number of ways to finance Single Payer.
You don't really understand what that magnitude of national government growth would mean and cost do you?
Again as others have said, look at the VA. That will be what a single payer system will be like. Except expand the scope, costs, and problems by a massive margin.
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