re: Single payer system

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Every single one of them is irrelevant.

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Why? It's a pretty clear example that the mechanisms/systems can and do work.

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Sure, in those countries.

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Are you saying American exceptionalism extends to our inability to adapt workable ideas in health care, distinct from any other industry on earth?

BamaAtl, I have a question for you, and no it's not a gothcha it's a general question that European policy makers are seeking an answer to.

Why is there little difference in the RATE of cost growth between the American and the European model? Bloomberg, vox, even NYT have noticed this peculiar trend.

The base cost is lower in Europe but the rate of cost growth hasn't been any better contained than here, according to data.

This isn't even a political question, it's just a interesting thing to theorize as to why this is the case

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Are you saying American exceptionalism extends to our inability to adapt workable ideas in health care, distinct from any other industry on earth?

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All it takes is a modicum of imagination, and Ideologues lack imagination. Too rigid, too restricted, caught up in their own mental gymnastics. DC is full of Ideologues, Republicans and Democrats, it's like watching a Polish fist fight.

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Why is there little difference in the RATE of cost growth between the American and the European model? Bloomberg, vox, even NYT have noticed this peculiar trend.

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Aging population? Isn't the baby boom a global (well, Western European/US/Canada) phenomenon? Age = higher costs, that's in stone.

Might also have something to do with the advancement of technology. For all the bitching you guys do about the FDA and drug companies, we have pretty similar standards of care here and across the pond.

Might be some good work done on it in the proper journals, tbh.

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What makes you think single-payor can't stand on its own in the US?

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I didn't say that.

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I didn't say that.

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You've without question heavily implied that single payor can't work in the US, despite doing so in other countries.

So now you're on board with single payor in the US? Welcome!

Maybe but it will never last. There isnt enough money to pay for it.

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With Trump's proposal of cutting foreign aid down to 50 billion, which I totally agree with and should be cut to 10 billion, couldn't we fund a single payer system with the money we keep?

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"The overriding message is fairly straightforward: less money spent overseas means more money spent here," said Mulvaney, a former South Carolina Representative.

The United States spends just over $50 billion annually on the State Department and USAID, compared with $600 billion or more each year on the Pentagon.

Several Republicans this week on Capitol Hill raised concerns about the planned cuts to the State Department.

"I am very concerned by reports of deep cuts that could damage efforts to combat terrorism, save lives and create opportunities for American workers," said U.S. Representative Ed Royce, the Republican chairman of the House of Representatives Foreign Affairs Committee.

A U.S. government website said 20 government agencies plan to award $36.5 billion in foreign assistance programs in more than 100 countries around the world during the current budget year.

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Presidential candidate Bernie Sanders proposes significant tax increases that would raise $15.3 trillion over the next decade. All income groups would pay more tax, but mostnew revenuewould come from high-income householdsandparticularly those with very high incomes. Sanders would also implement new government benefits—notably government-financed single-payer health care, long-term services and supports, tuition-free public colleges and universities, and family leave benefits—and expand Social Security benefits. The Tax Policy Centerfinds the new government benefits would more than offset new taxes for 95percentof households,but the combined tax and transfer plan would increase federal budget deficits by more than $18 trillion over the next decade.

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Trump is only cutting foreign aid by ~$15billion and the most recent analysis of a single payer plan (Bernie's plan) would add ~$1.8trillion per year. That means that Trump's foreign aid savings could pay for ~6.5% of the cost of single payer in the USA.



























That is not to mention that single payer insurance is the stupidest the left has ever come up with and would be a major f**king disaster in the USA.