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re: Should Trump turn off the money spigot to California?

Posted on 12/21/16 at 7:28 am to
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 12/21/16 at 7:28 am to
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The Feds shouldn't be taking in money just to give it back in the first place. You have a valid point it does seem ridiculous but how are you going to pay for the Military in California?
Posted by germandawg
Member since Sep 2012
14135 posts
Posted on 12/21/16 at 7:29 am to
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Didn't the feds threaten to withhold monies from La. if they didn't raise their drinking age to 21 a few years back? This is the same thing with these safe cities.



Except Louisiana lives in mama and daddy's basement so they have to live by mama and daddy's rules....California IS mama and daddy....

Assuming you are a self sufficient adult what would you do if your mama and daddy came to you and told you not to stay out past curfew? You'd probably tell them it is cute of them to still see you as a child but as a self sufficient adult you will respectively have to decline. That is California. If, on the other hand, you still living under their roof, as Louisiana is, then you would have to either comply or get out and become like California and be self sufficient....
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
57198 posts
Posted on 12/21/16 at 7:31 am to
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Didn't the feds threaten to withhold monies from La. if they didn't raise their drinking age to 21 a few years back? This is the same thing with these safe cities.


Not really. The raising the drinking age thing was/is a clear violation of the 10th Amendment because the federal government forced a state to change state law thereby creating a de facto national drinking age. Immigration law is federal, so the federal government would be well with its right to pull the plug until California complies.
Posted by Old Hellen Yeller
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
9415 posts
Posted on 12/21/16 at 7:32 am to
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some of the shite you right wingers post on here is just fricking stupid.


First off, local and state law enforcement dont have authority to enforce federal immigration laws, hence the term federal. They are under no obligation to seek out immigration status information. Period.


Secondly, California is the 5th largest economy on the planet but yeah lets turn off Federal money and impose sanctions with one of our own.

Cant wait to see how many of you dumbasses agree with the OP


Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73431 posts
Posted on 12/21/16 at 7:32 am to
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Except Louisiana lives in mama and daddy's basement so they have to live by mama and daddy's rules....California IS mama and daddy.... Assuming you are a self sufficient adult what would you do if your mama and daddy came to you and told you not to stay out past curfew? You'd probably tell them it is cute of them to still see you as a child but as a self sufficient adult you will respectively have to decline. That is California. If, on the other hand, you still living under their roof, as Louisiana is, then you would have to either comply or get out and become like California and be self sufficient....
Good lord the momma and daddy bullshite again.
Posted by germandawg
Member since Sep 2012
14135 posts
Posted on 12/21/16 at 7:52 am to
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Good lord the momma and daddy bull shite again.




It is fitting because most of you on the right are childlike....you believe in magical beings like God and Santa Clause, when you don't get your way you make up shite like "Obama's justice department conspired to keep Clinton out of jail" or "the mean girl hit me first when she hit me back" and you have to come up with ways you are being treated unfairly...."the media is against my candidate" or "I only had 4 weeks to get that 500 word essay done...it isn't fair"....

Stop acting like children, be financially responsible for yourselves and no one will be able to smash you ole sore pussy again by calling you a child.....
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 12/21/16 at 7:53 am to
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If he does California will simply turn off the spigot to Washington and Washington will lose money...a lot of money...in the process.


how does that work in your mind?
Posted by germandawg
Member since Sep 2012
14135 posts
Posted on 12/21/16 at 7:54 am to
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quote:
The Feds shouldn't be taking in money just to give it back in the first place. You have a valid point it does seem ridiculous but how are you going to pay for the Military in California?




So I am guessing you would have California pay for the military bases in their boundaries and the military would have to kind of guess what their funding would look like? Or is it more practicle for the military to send California a bill and then spend the money when recieved as the military experts see fit? I understand that you suffer from ADD but surely you have something other than a chuckle to offer???
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73431 posts
Posted on 12/21/16 at 8:00 am to
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So I am guessing you would have California pay for the military bases in their boundaries and the military would have to kind of guess what their funding would look like?
No you stupid bastard.
quote:

The Feds shouldn't be taking in money just to give it back in the first place. You have a valid point it does seem ridiculous but how are you going to pay for the Military in California?
So you believe they take the money from that shithole state then give it back to that shithole state to pay for military bases?
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 12/21/16 at 8:01 am to
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Texas is th only state in the entire country that has a rainy day fund/savings account


Link?

You Texicans are a special breed of stupid.

Which States Are Most Prepared?

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Alaska, West Virginia, South Dakota, Nebraska, and Wyoming are the top five most prepared states for the next recession, based on the ability of their respective rainy day funds to cover any expected revenue shortfalls. Each of these states is prepared to cover its entire revenue shortfall in well over 75 percent of expected recession scenarios using its rainy day fund.


Hint Texas is in the top 30 though

Educate yourself here Texan
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48278 posts
Posted on 12/21/16 at 8:07 am to
wow. You got the gov. How would they ever get over the issue of increases in deductibility for state taxes? It would be impossible. Just admit you had no idea how the numbers you parrotted were calculated.

Look California isn't getting cut off. But do you think the fed gov is the one at risk if they did is silly. California would use the tax code against he fed gov. Hmmm. Wonder what they would do. Let that slide....or change the code???
Posted by germandawg
Member since Sep 2012
14135 posts
Posted on 12/21/16 at 8:20 am to
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quote:
So I am guessing you would have California pay for the military bases in their boundaries and the military would have to kind of guess what their funding would look like?
No you stupid bastard.
quote:
The Feds shouldn't be taking in money just to give it back in the first place. You have a valid point it does seem ridiculous but how are you going to pay for the Military in California?
So you believe they take the money from that shithole state then give it back to that shithole state to pay for military bases?





No my friend they take money from the state and spend it on military bases in the state...as well as other federal programs and projects...and the state benefits greatly from the transaction....just try to close a military base in any state and watch the whining from the state....

The federal government collects money and spends it on federal shite...some of that shite is in each state....some states get more than they send to washington...most of the red states do this...California does not get more back than they send....
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73431 posts
Posted on 12/21/16 at 8:34 am to
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and the state benefits greatly from the transaction
How so if they pay more to the Feds than the receive? Sounds like some Jerry Brown kinda math you got going on, maybe you should stick to momma and daddy type posts.
Posted by ljhog
Lake Jackson, Tx.
Member since Apr 2009
19064 posts
Posted on 12/21/16 at 10:15 am to
shut it off
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
70992 posts
Posted on 12/21/16 at 10:20 am to
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New York, Mass. These are the states funding the federal government.


Um, no.

NY sucks up massive amounts of corporate welfare, some of it off the books (like sweetheart interest rates from the Fed).
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
70992 posts
Posted on 12/21/16 at 10:22 am to
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when you don't get your way you make up shite like "the Russians hacked paper ballots and offline voting machines"
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
57198 posts
Posted on 12/21/16 at 10:26 am to
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First off, local and state law enforcement dont have authority to enforce federal immigration laws,


Maybe, but they sure as Hell don't have the authority to flaunt federal immigration law.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
70992 posts
Posted on 12/21/16 at 10:28 am to
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First off, local and state law enforcement dont have authority to enforce federal immigration laws, hence the term federal. They are under no obligation to seek out immigration status information. Period.


They don't have to help, but they also have no right to obstruct. If they have someone in custody who is wanted on a federal warrant they should honor that warrant.
Posted by ihometiger
Member since Dec 2013
12475 posts
Posted on 12/21/16 at 10:43 am to
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So, you think one state can bring the other 49 to it's knees.


Damn you're dumb.


California is 20% of US economy so Yes
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80026 posts
Posted on 12/21/16 at 11:48 am to
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If he does California will simply turn off the spigot to Washington and Washington will lose money...a lot of money...in the process.


So what happens when the states that provide water to Southern California turn off THAT spigot?
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