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Posted on 3/16/14 at 12:13 am to HonoraryCoonass
indeed I am brilliant
Posted on 3/16/14 at 12:32 am to asurob1
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indeed I am brilliant
Yep, you're a legend....in your own mind.
LC
Posted on 3/16/14 at 2:01 am to Jim Rockford
Another Libertarian joins the fold. 
Posted on 3/16/14 at 6:29 am to papasmurf1269
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Whatever floats his boat. ETA He believes in a woman's choice to murder an innocent child. Good riddance.
Women will realize soon enough, that the freedom to "murder an innocent child" is far less important than the dependency on government to fill the basic emotional and basic bodily needs of their child.
The subsidization (and innate promotion) of women with children who have no husband with a loving bond and will take no responsibility for either woman or child - especially when the big one hits - will come back to bite women and most government dependents in the arse. The Achilles heel of complex systems is their complexity; a gnat in the wrong place can create a meltdown. And that don't even consider them that realize such, and wish to do us systematic harm.
Freedom...minus wisdom and the will to apply it...is fool's gold. Marriage ain't some Biblical folly; it's there for a survival reason. A woman and child alone...are sitting ducks.
Duval ought to brush up on his lines, before he blurts them out in a political theater. BTW...the Republican establishment does suck.
Live and learn.
Posted on 3/16/14 at 6:40 am to Draconian Sanctions
It is a moral issue not social as you claim.
It is becoming the total change in moral standards led by non-conservative mindsets that are most concerning for parents and citizens like myself.
quote:
social issues again
It is becoming the total change in moral standards led by non-conservative mindsets that are most concerning for parents and citizens like myself.
Posted on 3/16/14 at 6:41 am to papasmurf1269
quote:No.
Whatever floats his boat. ETA He believes in a woman's choice to murder an innocent child. Good riddance.
He does likely think if your 16y/o daughter is raped and impregnated during a vicious home invasion, the product of that rape can be justifiably terminated.
Your screed about "choice to murder an innocent child" negates that option.
God's will?
Posted on 3/16/14 at 6:49 am to NC_Tigah
I see the issue of abortion being continually widened to acceptance of all terms of pregnancy.
quote:This is a viable exception for even a conservative like me.
He does likely think if your 16y/o daughter is raped and impregnated during a vicious home invasion, the product of that rape can be justifiably terminated
Posted on 3/16/14 at 6:51 am to Jim Rockford
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"Some of these very conservative Republicans... I don't know, man. I believe in a woman's choice."
Did the GOP recently officially adopt a new stance on this issue?
The fact that he sat out Godfather 3 was one of many things that ruined that movie. Really good actor.
Posted on 3/16/14 at 6:59 am to Y.A. Tittle
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. Really good actor
Definitely at the top of my list.
Posted on 3/16/14 at 7:01 am to RIPMachoMan
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Makes two of us.
Its sad that most people forget what made this country so great and are ok in letting it go in the opposite direction. All because of feelings. They are told its the "right" thing to do. The republicans are in name only but lack the real meaning of the party and that is conservatism. Duval maybe looking at the Tea party being more of his liking. But the socialist press will think its better to push his hatred for Republicans only.
Posted on 3/16/14 at 7:09 am to themunch
quote:Not by papasmurf1269's idiotic, malignant proposition.
quote:
He does likely think if your 16y/o daughter is raped and impregnated during a vicious home invasion, the product of that rape can be justifiably terminated
This is a viable exception for even a conservative like me.
His is the kind of mindless babble that, if taken seriously, would give any reasonable human 2nd thoughts.
OTOH, I have heard that if the 16y/o doesn't actually enjoy the rape, she'll be able to shut her reproductive system down and won't get pregnant. Maybe that's papasmurf1269's contention.
This post was edited on 3/16/14 at 9:10 am
Posted on 3/16/14 at 7:31 am to NC_Tigah
Not to be mindlessly contentious, NC...but I think that much of the (assumed) Conservative 'madness' re the abortion issue...is rooted in principle. A laissez faire attitude re sex, irresponsible childbearing, and the innate disrespect and reverence for life - as such affects the future culture...is at the heart of the debate.
Honestly...I'd rather see rapists terminated than a fetus; hell, they've shown their colors. Let the unborn have their shot.
BTW, we could go really deep on this stuff...but I have to fly off to the Big City.
Honestly...I'd rather see rapists terminated than a fetus; hell, they've shown their colors. Let the unborn have their shot.
BTW, we could go really deep on this stuff...but I have to fly off to the Big City.
Posted on 3/16/14 at 7:33 am to NC_Tigah
quote:
16 y/o actually enjoys the rape,
This is despicable.
Posted on 3/16/14 at 7:43 am to NC_Tigah
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He does likely think if your 16y/o daughter is raped and impregnated during a vicious home invasion, the product of that rape can be justifiably terminated.
And what percentage of abortions does this make up?
Love those extreme positions to (poorly) frame an argument.
That is not the point he was making. He is pro-choice. It is not like the Republican Party has not been pro-life since the mid 70s. If he disagrees with their pro-life position then he is best served to move on. There is a party that is pro-choice. He will fit right in.
Posted on 3/16/14 at 8:08 am to BeerCity
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How anyone here can have faith in either political party is beyond me. Both parties have fricked this country two ways to Sunday over the past 35 years. Is that not blatantly obvious to people?
There ain't a nickels difference between them, but leaving the GOP will make the Dems stronger for a while. It may well be necessary but pretending that it happens in a void is being dishonest....
Posted on 3/16/14 at 8:31 am to Jim Rockford
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"Some of these very conservative Republicans... I don't know, man. I believe in a woman's choice."
What does this have to do with fixing the country for goodness sakes?
Posted on 3/16/14 at 8:57 am to Wolfhound45
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That is not the point he was making. He is pro-choice. It is not like the Republican Party has not been pro-life since the mid 70s. If he disagrees with their pro-life position then he is best served to move on. There is a party that is pro-choice. He will fit right in.
quote:Bingo. Right backatya!
Love those extreme positions to (poorly) frame an argument.
You're either pro-choice or pro-life . . . . except when your not. You're an unfettered pro-lifer . . . . except when your not. You're vehemently antiabortion . . . . except when your not. E.g., in the case of rape, foundational basis for your argument doesn't change, but the convenience of it does.
Meanwhile the """pro-life""" extremists, proposing women should simply shut down their reproductive systems if they get raped, continue with a FAR greater voice than their intellect or popular support warrant.
quote:Frankly, you don't know what point he was making.
That is not the point he was making
I am certain that having Todd Aiken and Richard Mourdock tossed in his face at every turn influences his disgust. It certainly influences mine.
You go popping off with extreme antiabortion BS, and guess what? You appeal only to the extreme.
It's actually the best strategy you could possibly employ to keep pro-abortion politicians in office. The 2012 Missouri and Indiana Senate races bear witness.
To pro-lifers supportive of the all-or-nothing strategy, congrats on your breathtaking stupidity. Welcome to the 41st year of nothing!
This post was edited on 3/16/14 at 9:03 am
Posted on 3/16/14 at 9:02 am to themunch
quote:
This is despicable.
It's not what he believes. He was ridiculing Akin.
Posted on 3/16/14 at 9:07 am to themunch
quote:It certainly is.
16 y/o actually enjoys the rape,
This is despicable.
Yet that is exactly the belief of pro-life extremists.
Neither holier-than-thou side has clean hands at the extremes.
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